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I think parent and grandparent posts both have somewhat valid if overstated points, but have improperly used "left-wing" and "right-wing" in place of "pro-censorship" and "anti-censorship".

Pro-censorship arguments can come from the right (and often do), and anti-censorship arguments in favor or personal choice driving availability can come from the left (and often do.)

Usually, there's slightly different subject matter that left- and right-wing pro-censorship folks target, though sexualized images of women tend to be targeted by both, though with different rationales.



I think that making it about 'censorship' immediately betrays a kind of knee-jerk status quo defending.

There are some folks who would want to see censorship of this kind of material, I'm sure. But I've not met them. And it certainly isn't what the vast, vast majority of feminists and social justice campaigners are interested in.

I don't want censorship for anything. I think people should be perfectly entitled to produce comics with toxic representations of blacks, Jews, Christians, LGBT+ folks, whoever. But I want to agitate and educate for a culture in which such representations are rightly considered unpleasant and unwelcome to most people. I want to change the culture so that those kind of facile objectifications are seen for what they are, and where most people reject them accordingly.

The idea that this is about censorship, is a strawman, as far as I can see. Remember Voltaire.

Unfortunately, it is common for some people to confuse organisation against something with censorship of it.




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