> the quality of your programmers and the stability of your requirements. ... Get those two, and it doesn't matter what methodology you use, you'll have functional and elegant software.

I've always believed that when excellent programmers advocate whatever methodology they use (e.g. Beck et al.) they themselves are missing the fundamental fact that they could produce excellent software using three sea shells.

I'm really glad that those excellent and public programmers don't have a more perverse sense of humor.

... or, maybe they do ...