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This again. Every time someone speaks out about sexism there seems to be a need for some to defend the predators (directly or by declaring that "this is not sexism"). Why do you feel obligated to do so?


Its a double standard. Its allowed to assume the worst motives in male behavior, always gets a pass. Its forbidden to call out despicable behavior in females.

And now, it seems its forbidden to explain male behavior as anything but evil. Because they are 'predators' by default.

Resorting to these "PC rules of engagement" ends rational discussion. Reducing this to the choir preaching to one another.


I don't believe this story is on "male behavior" nor an attack on every male in the world. It's an story on predators that happen to be male (and female for that matter).

Your answer is kind of what I expected: You believe sexism is an attack on men, and therefore need to be on the defense.


> It's an story on predators that happen to be male (and female for that matter).

Don't you think it's then disingenuous to call it sexism?


>> It's an story on predators that happen to be male (and female for that matter).

> Don't you think it's then disingenuous to call it sexism?

Not if each group unfairly characterizes the other based solely on gender traits. Sexism is a two-way street -- if a man says, "All women are dumb", that's very clearly sexist. If a woman says, "All men are rapists," that's equally sexist.


Women can absolutely be sexist towards other women-- as in a jealousy scenario. Sexism is being targeted because of your gender. The fact that this is not obvious explains a lot.


Isn't that a bit reaching, though? Jealousy is a personal feeling, not a reaction based on societal and political frameworks. Anecdote: gay men in long-term relationships are jealous of their partners too, and their reactions to perceived "enemies" are similar to that of people in heterosexual couples.


To be clear, what we're talking about here is not a simple interpersonal issue. It's sexism within a company.

It doesn't matter whether the source of that sexism is the way the men treat women, or whether its the way a high-powered woman treats the other women. (Both are at play in this particular story.) If someone is being discriminated against due to their gender, the company culture has an issue with sexism.

I brought up jealousy as an example, but I didn't mean it to be romantic. It can be an issue of feeling threatened by another woman, as when a woman used to be the only female voice at her company. It's a twisted perspective, but there's data to say it exists.


So when a woman has a problem at work, it is "sexism"?


Let's try this one again, from the start:

It's sexism if a human being[1] is being mistreated, harassed, or "labeled" because of their gender[2].

It's perhaps easier to understand from analogy[3], take a look at racism[4] and see if you can find any similarities.

Feel free to ask any question if something is still unclear.

[1] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_being

[2] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender

[3] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analogy

[4] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism


You're obviously not even trying to understand this.




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