You definitely have a bone to pick with someone but it doesn't seem that you even read my post.
"Well sure; people overcome all types of adversity to learn"
My post does not even remotely touch on diversity, not that its not a worthy discussion as far as education goes its not what i am speaking about.
"Learning despite misguided education policies will occur, but it's not a legitimate defense against criticism of the policies."
I never once defended the current policies, in fact i specifically said "Our schooling systems have there faults, large ones"
This I have the most issues with, you even made up a quote about me.
"So some kids don't have adequate "drive" or motivation. Should they be dismissed because of it? They are kids! Some kids need more encouragement and support, and we should be helping them succeed (truly succeed, not be socially promoted), not saying "well you aren't trying hard enough, you deserve to fail." Do not worry- they will get that plenty as an adult. The purpose of school is to prepare kids for adulthood, we shouldn't be dismissing them because they aren't prepared already."
We SHOULD encourage our kids and we SHOULD support them, thats my whole point. You mis quoted me saying "well you aren't trying hard enough, you deserve to fail.". This could not be further from what my whole post was about. My post had nothing to do with trying, it has to do with wanting. I also NEVER said that anyone "deserve to fail", what im saying is that our kids should be allowed to fail, to know what its like to fail.
"The purpose of school is to prepare kids for adulthood, we shouldn't be dismissing them because they aren't prepared already."
Passing students who have not learned what they need to is not preparing them for adulthood, its doing them a disservice by putting them into a situation they are equipped to handle all in the name of being politically correct.
"Another bone I must pick with your "they they don't want to learn""
Again you miss quote, miss represent and say exactly opposite of what im trying to say. So i will ignore the entire rest of your argument.
"Well sure; people overcome all types of adversity to learn"
My post does not even remotely touch on diversity, not that its not a worthy discussion as far as education goes its not what i am speaking about.
"Learning despite misguided education policies will occur, but it's not a legitimate defense against criticism of the policies."
I never once defended the current policies, in fact i specifically said "Our schooling systems have there faults, large ones"
This I have the most issues with, you even made up a quote about me.
"So some kids don't have adequate "drive" or motivation. Should they be dismissed because of it? They are kids! Some kids need more encouragement and support, and we should be helping them succeed (truly succeed, not be socially promoted), not saying "well you aren't trying hard enough, you deserve to fail." Do not worry- they will get that plenty as an adult. The purpose of school is to prepare kids for adulthood, we shouldn't be dismissing them because they aren't prepared already."
We SHOULD encourage our kids and we SHOULD support them, thats my whole point. You mis quoted me saying "well you aren't trying hard enough, you deserve to fail.". This could not be further from what my whole post was about. My post had nothing to do with trying, it has to do with wanting. I also NEVER said that anyone "deserve to fail", what im saying is that our kids should be allowed to fail, to know what its like to fail.
"The purpose of school is to prepare kids for adulthood, we shouldn't be dismissing them because they aren't prepared already."
Passing students who have not learned what they need to is not preparing them for adulthood, its doing them a disservice by putting them into a situation they are equipped to handle all in the name of being politically correct.
"Another bone I must pick with your "they they don't want to learn""
Again you miss quote, miss represent and say exactly opposite of what im trying to say. So i will ignore the entire rest of your argument.