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I could be wrong, but I recall in many developing countries phones there are many teenagers who code on their phone because laptops (even tablets) are prohibitively costly.

They might be wiring their phones up to some cheap keyboards, which is technically possible but I don't know if they're doing that.

A friend of mine from a SEA country learned/did all of his coding on a 10-inch Android tablet using the touch-screen keyboard since age 11 until his parents bought him a proper laptop as a gift for going to college.

Edit: for example https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45286044, there are other cases that I've definitely seen on GitHub but I can't find them at this moment.



> I could be wrong, but I recall in many developing countries phones there are many teenagers who code on their phone because laptops (even tablets) are prohibitively costly.

Yes, I see that a lot here in the far south of Morocco.

> They might be wiring their phones up to some cheap keyboards, which is technically possible but I don't know if they're doing that.

They do. Adapters are about $2.


Why do that when bluetooth keyboards are cheap these days too? For like $11 you can get a bluetooth keyboard, which would most likely just work...

I could also see some of them using a cheap tablet for the larger screen, but I've also run into teens who use their phones exclusively.


It may be $11 here in the US, but it might be harder to get and more costly in a developing nation. In which case, if it is easier to get that $2 adapter and an e-waste keyboard, that likely makes sense for them


You can get bluetooth keyboards on aliexpress for under £2.

If dealing with that type of budget then scavenging is probably the better route especially as online payments may also be out of reach.

In general, as a frugal person, buying "converter" type hardware is rarely a win because mass produced things are so much cheaper than more trivial but niche things.

However, converter type things are often unused clutter someone would happily give away. Just yesterday I came across some ps2 to usb converters. I can't imagine ever needing one again...but imagine the horror of not having one if you did! I probably didn't need to keep two though...


Sure, I don't discount that, I guess my real point was that bluetooth might still be viable depending on country.


Pretty sure the people who have to choose between eating and a $2 adapter and not eating and a Bluetooth keyboard have a better understanding of the trade offs and what’s viable than you do. Not sure what real point you’re trying to make here


$2 makes sense if they have a computer already and a keyboard for said computer, otherwise it doesn't make much sense to me.


Hmm, I see. Of course if I had no choice like those people, I would rather pick "coding uncomfortably on a phone" over "not coding at all".


I was one of them for a long time but for me I truly only picked pace after getting a computer, now experimenting with a lot of different things.

On the other hand one of my friends used to code on the phone, and he was using kivy to do some raytracing cool thing in 9th grade. Definitely something that I wouldn't be able to do right now even too, and i was the only person excited about it as much. I celebrated the nerd culture on ms teams in our school (back when there was covid)

Now he has a laptop too and I introduced him to hyprland though he picked fedora and he riced it being inspired by me.

Its like, I don't think that he's that much into coding anymore, like the exam for which we are both learning idk, I am still really really interested about coding yet he seems to focus on defense and wants to be someone in defense technologies for the nation.

We literally used to joke how our youtube feeds are of the same people and yet I think that we are very two different people right now of sorts and now recently I was coding something on my phone with micro in alpine in userland application and wanted to share him the python code and I wanted to have something like a for i,n in range in a langauge like golang and yes I could do a while loop but I was just wondering if it was possible or not and I asked him and he asked if I knew coding or not :sob:, ofc I didn't know there was something like enumerate() function, noone in programming just spawns out of that information and I thought he would be more kinder to me given we've been friends for so long and he definitely made me a bit insecure and just said that I am blowing things up when I said that dude I just wanted to show ya something I was working on for fun, not get roasted.

We were really close before hand but that instance just made me feel like :/ I want to be appreciated too and sometimes I don't like the dark jokes or whatever, I like if someone can be as kind as I was to them, I just its not even karma but human decency to know sometimes. I usually try to help others and just expected it from someone I deeply trusted that had done some massive communication blunders and he just said that he won't change for me and I need to grow up... Yes its silly but he just said in the most condescending way but still I forgive him because maybe he was having a bad day and we are still friends but that's when i also realized that I need better friends too of sorts yknow.


> They might be wiring their phones up to some cheap keyboards, which is technically possible

Not just possible, but quite easy. You just plug it in (or connect it via bluetooth) same as with a computer.




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