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>n February 2024, a driverless Waymo robotaxi struck a cyclist in San Francisco.[132] Later that same month, Waymo issued recalls for 444 of its vehicles after two hit the same truck being towed on a highway

I am not entirely sure that is solved. And certainly not years ago. And it is only close in US where the data are trained. Doesn't mean it could be used in Japan ( where they are doing testing now ) driving on the different of the road with very different culture and traffics.



Citing a specific (tragic) incident isn’t really great evidence in re: safety. You have to normalize by something like accidents/mile driven and compare to comparable services (taxi/uber etc) - having said that I couldn’t quickly find any sources either positive or negative on those stats (besides Waymo PR docs) so I’m not saying you’re necessarily wrong. just wanted to point out the obvious flaw with citing anecdotal evidence for something like this.

You could easily use the same logic to say humans haven’t solved driving yet either!


A big part of me believes the only extra safety they give is they drive much slower. This in itself might be the solution for human deaths on the road.


Crashes per mile is multiple times lower than the human rate for both Waymo and Tesla. If your definition of solved is that there will be 0 collisions ever then the problem will never be solved. But if we have a system that is much better at driving than most humans, I think that qualifies it as good enough to start using.




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