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Are there any sustainable socialist economies by any metric?

China has hit it out of the park, I think it's quite fair to say. (Could easily name a whole bunch more, but gotta keep this short. It's also a moot subject, per my last item below).

Colonialism is not free market.

That's the thing -- "free market" societies have never really been free, once externalities are accounted for. But the multi-century European colonial project was no mere externality. Its genesis, ideology and economics were inseparable from the development of Western-style capitalism as we know it.

Again, communist countries are the most polluted ones. The reason is straightforward - their economies produced so little, they couldn't afford environmental protection costs.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. But this also gets into a much more important topic we've been leaving out: there's no dichotomy between "socialism" and "capitalism" -- and never was. Nearly every modern, large-scale economy has been a working hybrid of both systems.

Even the good ole' USA.



China abandoned communism and turned free markets. That's why they "hit it out of the park".

> "free market" societies have never really been free

Of course. But the free'er they are, the better they work.

> has been a working hybrid of both systems

The socialist part flounders along, supported by taxes on the free market. The bigger the socialist part, the worse the economy as a whole performs.


China abandoned communism and turned free markets.

We weren't talking about communism, but rather socialism. Also, its markets are very far from free.

That's all I have time for. Good luck.




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