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Social media sites are the collective equivalent of a "dollar auction"[1]

In the dollar auction, each immediate choice isrational, but the overall process inevitably results in you losing value once you've decided to participate. But at each step, you lose more by quitting than by keeping going.

Social media is the same, except that it's collective: if you want to keep in touch with certain people, you don't have a choice other than to use the social media site they are using, so leaving is a collective action problem.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction


> you don't have a choice other than to use the social media site they are using

Hence federated social media. No one’s pretending the current implementations are perfect, but they’re far more interesting than the existing closed platforms.


They are, but I'm not sure what will cause a critical mass to switch. Short of the EU mandating that the existing platforms federate, which could be problematic.


As someone who doesn't use social media this analogy strikes me as a rationalization for something you know is bad for you and a waste of your time but you can't stop so you make up this fiction about how you would lose more by stopping.

An alcoholic who can't stop going to the bar because they will lose their drinking buddies is not a dollar auction.


It's not a rationalisation, and you're missing the point.


Your comment has the exact same message if you remove the virtue signaling “As someone who doesn't use social media”.


As someone who doesn't use social media this analogy strikes me as a rationalization for something you know is bad for you and a waste of your time but you can't stop so you make up this fiction about a dollar auction.


I'm guessing the algorithm put you in some bucket, as my (Spanish/European, if that matters) "For you" looks quite different, the 10 first tweets are ~4 coding things, 1 meme, 2 WIP animation things and 3 different angles on the ongoing Telegram story. Last time I opened Twitter seems to have been 3 months ago according to my browser history, so not really a big user of it either.


I started using Twitter more actively quite recently actually, and yeah, you can make it work well.

You just have to:

1. Follow the accounts posting interesting content.

2. Whenever you see anything that’s not interesting to you, you click the three dots on the card and select “not interesting to me”.

You can train your feed very quickly this way, and I can say Twitter is mostly valuable for me now.


If you don't use your account you will get what most people look for in your location, in your case probably sex, violence, politics, memes, ragebait...

The feed should adapt to your tastes depending on what you like, retweet or who you follow, maybe also on what you click on. You can also add topic of interest somewhere in your profile.

For me, just following a number of "good" accounts seems to do the job.

Or you could just ignore the "For You" tab and use the "Following" tab


> you will get what most people look for in your location, in your case probably sex, violence, politics, memes, ragebait... The feed should adapt to your tastes

That's a bit of a metaphor for the current world, isn't it? Out there, it's a cultural desert with Mad Max undertones; but in our well-behaved, manicured corners of intellectualist internet, all is good and everyone agrees with each other.


> Every time I see or hear someone is using Twitter, I really wonder what is wrong with them

I feel the same about facebook. Sometimes when I visit my mother she'll show me something on there and I'm struck by how much garbage fills the screen. Why bother? But I can see there's a small percentage of content that actually matters to her (family updates) and the other stuff doesn't upset her too much. Except when a cooking channel sneaks in pornographic advertisements in their story feed and she couldn't figure out how to get rid of it.


you made me check out the 'For you tab' (I had an account to read post) and unlike you my X seems like a nicer place than yours :

1-a post from Macron on Pavel

2-a picture of a dog

3-another post on Pavel by a weird account

4-future will be tab tab tab by Karpathy

5- a post by Yann LeCun

6- Elon ... :(

7- an animation of a Cockatoo

8- an infographic explaining that paradoxically the shape the shape of a light wave can travel faster than the speed of light itself!

9- someone happy about ETH Zurich CS curriculum

10- someone reposting an image full, of text about being underpaid

It's not perfect, Macron and Musk have no place there, but it's not the MAGA bar you got.


While logged out (on desktop at least), all I see is the single linked post with no other content, no ads, no popups. The worst is a couple of sign in/up buttons on the right side and a banner on the bottom of the screen asking me to log in. It's actually pretty great.


Instead I see "Something went wrong" and underneath "Firefox’s Enhanced Tracking Protection (Strict Mode) is known to cause issues on x.com".

I guess it must be great to be tracked by Elon Musk's minions in exchange for some entertainment.


Twitter lists reduce dependency on black-box feed algorithms.


What does your comment have to do with a link to a specific Twitter post?


If you meant that last question sincerely: I’ve been able to improve the recommended tweets a ton (its basically good and useful now) by hammering on the “not interested” button a lot. It started out garbage as for you too though


For me, it required a hard unfollow and sometimes block for anyone talking politics, softer measures for dunking/clickbait/bullshit.

After that, the place is a pretty great with smart engineers talking engineering.


Indeed, one needs to give some signals (like, mute, block) to the algorithm in order for it to work.


It is because your account is mostly unused. If you use Google search without a login and all cookies cleared, you get one murder, one car accident, one latest meme, etc. In other words, tabloid material.

I am afraid to use autocomplete because it is so disgusting and distracting.


You are responsible for curating your "For You" tab by following/liking-posts-of/replying-to-posts-of/muting/blocking/unfollowing the right accounts.

Once I accepted that my "For You" tab got much better.


The problem for me is, that I don't want to use a site where I can stumble upon gore, obscure sex stuff or some ragebait political stuff in the first place.


Yeah that's a problem. I agree.




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