well, i tried salvia and I tried shrooms. I don’t see how it’s more philosophical just because it’s a dissociative. at best, it’s more of an ego death than, say, shrooms, if during the trip you become an object. It’s still a unique plant for sure because of it’s dissociative effects. To thread lightly. AFAIK natives in mexico say that smoking it is very bad. and that u’re supposed to chew fresh leaves. maybe chewing fresh leaves doesn’t even cause the same dissociative effects which are unpleasant.