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Er, your comment is the one lacking nuance. There was no snow here, nor did I claim accidents never happen. I was trying to get across a point about the parent's argument.


Your point boils down to a "what if" though. If it's as dangerous as you make it, then you should be able to show plenty of examples where actual harm is happening. Showcase those.


Over 700 allegedly fatal crashes attributable to FSD [1] that Tesla has officially reported to the government over a estimated 400M miles on FSD. Making the driver 150x more likely to be involved in a fatal crash than if they were driving on their own.

Note that these are based on auditable published statistics and are likely a overestimate of the risk as we must assume the worst when doing safety-critical analysis. Tesla could improve these numbers by not deliberately suppressing incident reports and by not deliberately choosing not investigate to avoid confirming fatality reports. But, until they do so we need to err on the side of caution and the consumer instead of the for-profit corporation.

[1] https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/ffdd/sgo-2021-01/SGO-2021-01_In...


Good, so use those as an example of how bad it is, not the car moving forward a little and the driver stopping it before anything bad happens.




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