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He said from the very beginning that he would make mistakes. Anyone one person is going to be biased with decisions these decisions and is not going to make everyone happy all the time. The real test is whether he can establish systems that can patrol the speech, so that no one person is at fault. This takes time.


Elon Musk is an idiot who bought is own bull. This is just a case of the dog catching the car.

He's never going to develop 'systems that can patrol the speech' because he's far too vain and think skinned to allow actual open dialogue. Like every other conservative, the only speech he really cares about is his own, and he is completely comfortable banning or delisting speech he personally doesn't like. He's tyrant man child.


"tyrant man child" "far too vain" "thick skinned" "like every other conservative"

Ever look in the mirror? That's a lot of hate and presumptions to assume about one person. And Elon is most definitely not a conservative. He has stated he voted democrat his whole life. His support for republicans is only recent and says he is not against voting democrat sometime in the future.


>That's a lot of hate and presumptions to assume about one person

There is no assumption. It's based on the things he's said and done

>And Elon is most definitely not a conservative.

Yes he is.

>He has stated he voted democrat his whole life.

His word means nothing, but regardless, you can be conservative and vote Democrat. The Democrat party is for the most part the republican party with less bigotry.

>His support for republicans is only recent and says he is not against voting democrat sometime in the future.

His support for the GOP comes when they tried to overthrow the government and have installed a far-right religious fanatic majority on the highest court in the land? Yeah, he's conservative.


I'm pretty... confused, for lack of better terms, at the amount of vitriol that (overwhelmingly) liberals have exhibited during this whole ordeal. Dude bought a company. Stay or leave. Why is everyone flailing about so much? People have a weird obsession with Elon now.

Personally, I was skeptical of his claims to free speech and still am (especially given how he's handled it thus far). You simply can't have free speech platforms. You need protocols designed to achieve such a thing. Something like Twitter is always doomed to be censored.

But my disagreement ends there. I'm enjoying the Twitter files releases. Seeing the cooperation between Twitter and the feds is both unsurprising and unsettling.


I have a hard time believing this is sincere:

> Dude bought a company.

Approximately nobody thinks Twitter is just another company. Clearly Musk doesn't think that; he's waxed poetic about how important it is to the future of humanity. Its hundreds of millions of users don't think it's just another company either. It demonstrably played an important role in journalism and public discourse.


> Dude bought a company. Stay or leave. Why is everyone flailing about so much?

What dude actually did was disrupt communities, which after all the talk about free speech, seems to have been a lot of the point.

Despite whatever personal feeling about Twitter you may have, some people liked it, formed social bonds there, and worked hard to post fun and interesting content. Not all of it was political outrage. Moderation policies were put in place by the old Twitter to make the experience of those people better, and Musk took those protections away. So now those people are in fact leaving after facing a deluge of hate that all of a sudden (for whatever reason) surged when Musk took over. That's the problem. Now my social network is spread across post, mastadon, substack, reddit, and twitter. And for what? To turn Twitter into Truth Social, which itself is trying to be Twitter? It's all so pointless and yet real damage to real relationships is being done.


Sounds like the problem is relying on the internet for your relationships/happiness.


Reads like victim blaming to me.

If Twitter is the town square, Elon Musk is a natural disaster which rips through the town and destroys houses, forcing your friends to move to different towns. My problem isn’t that I made friends in the town; my problem is the natural disaster that ruined my town.

Social ties are important to people, no matter where and how they form. Breaking that up has real consequences. I’m sure you would feel the same way about your own social connections, and you wouldn’t appreciate someone blaming you for those ties being weakened by external forces.


> Why is everyone flailing about so much? People have a weird obsession with Elon now.

It's almost as if there are actual consequences to what he is doing, and what happens to twitter.




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