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		nobody9999 on Nov 3, 2022 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: Justice Department announces takedown of catalytic... >True, but that isn't relevant. I am saying it is a necessary but not sufficient condition for it to be murder. By definition, it must be unlawful, but it also must be premeditated. IANAL, but I don't believe murder can only be if it's premeditated. In fact, IIUC, most murders are not premeditated. Some examples: Felony murder: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule Depraved indifference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depraved-heart_murder Murder without premeditation: https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/crime/2019/11/20/kal... I'm sure there are many other examples.

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