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My friends and I all bought fake Bose headphones from a shady dealer in China (in person), and the $50 knockoffs sounded exactly as good as the real $600 ones. The only way to tell there was anything wrong was by the fact that they all broke down within a few months.



So one thing to keep in mind is there is a lot of “leakage” out of genuine products manufacturer in China and SE Asia.

Workers will “divert” product from factories (or almost) finished product and sell on the side.

I’ve heard this is a big issue with clothing manufacturers.

Of course determining whether it’s actually counterfeit or just diverted product is likely impossible at the point of purchase.


Right, and I would assume that a good fraction of those were products that didn't qualify as "good enough" at the factory ?


Still, for value conscious people it’s fine. My dad was really into shortwave radio and other stuff in the 80s.

He’d buy “grey market” gear from stores in NYC that were legit, but intended for Latin America or other markets. Sometimes the fit and finish would be interior or connectors would be lower quality, but the price was right and an 80% product is better than nothing.

If I know I’m buying a “Rolox”, that’s one thing. If you sell and price a Rolex that is not, that’s a problem.




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