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> for the same reason it doesn't execute or torture criminals.

I don't disagree with the idea, but to be precise torture and execution at the hand of police and secret services is still a thing in the EU. Especially since the covid lockdowns started almost two years ago, it seems police murders have raised significantly in some parts of the EU (like France).



The best data I could find was the following https://wp.unil.ch/space/files/2021/12/SPACE-II_2020_Final_r...

Council of Europe Annual Penal Statistics – SPACE II – 2020 - so evidently 2021 not published yet.

that is the full report maybe take this https://wp.unil.ch/space/files/2021/06/KeyFindings_Probation... which is the keyfindings and a quicker read.

Figure 3 on page 5 (in the keyfindings document) - Probation and Prison population rates (per 100,000 inhabitants) on 31st January 2020 shows the median prison population is 103 per 100,000

where probation is concerned on 31st January 2020, there were 1,512,765 probationers under the supervision of the 31 probation agencies of the Council of Europe member states which use the person as the counting unit for their stock of probationers...

which would lead to a probation population rate of 311 probationers per 100,000 inhabitants. However, when the European median value is estimated on the basis of the population and the number of probationers of each country, it corresponds to 149 probationers per 100,000 inhabitants

in Table 3 on page 16 shows Composition of the probation and prison populations on 31st January 2020 and mortality during 2019.

Is your suggestion that some part of these deaths are killings by the EU authorities as a part of policy / extrajudicial killing, or do you mean that there are other deaths that are not in this table. If so - your sources for this claim please?


The OP is probably referring to this well known article (in French): "In 2020, 27 deaths as a result of law enforcement response, including 12 during containment"

https://basta.media/recensement-interventions-policieres-let...


I was not referring to this article specifically but yes i was referring to those infamous stats. Before Macron, we had a casual rhythm of ~1 police murder/month. Under Macron they started raising, until we hit over ~2 police murders/month last year, as you pointed out.

If talking about secret services murdering people, the Rainbow Warrior would be a good example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Rainbow_Warrior

And about police torturing people, i've been lucky enough to be only mildly hurt by police who beat me down on more than one occasion, but i know first-hand people who were tortured by police. These situations are well-documented by copwatchers. One case made news worldwide two years ago but is a good symptom of the wider problem: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/26/paris-police-f...




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