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> You're trying to speak on my behalf here, so maybe listen to what I'm trying to yell you?

I'm a queer creator, I'm speaking for nobody but myself here. In fact, you're the only one that's trying to get me to change your opinion so far. I frankly don't care how much you love TikTok (since I could find a school bus full of people who share the same opinion any day of the working week), but I do want you to understand why myself (as well as many other queer privacy/security advocates) are recommending that people avoid it like the plague.

> TikTok enables and encouraged everyone to be a creator in a way that no other platform currently does.

Sure. Their growth is dependent on your devotion to their app, so I don't doubt that they do their best to reduce 'inner circle' friction.

> Did it not occur to you that TikTok must have brought something new to the table to get to that spot?

To my knowledge, TikTok actually became popular because it did nothing new. Once Musical.ly went away, there needed to be a competitor that could also pay the insane license fees for the popular songs you see all over those apps. Since nobody else had that kind of money, the only viable competitor standing was the CCP, who could afford to piss money away ad-infinitum if it was going towards the oppression of marginalized groups

> please at least use that app for a week to get some firsthand knowledge

Hell no! I'm not going to use Facebook for a week to confirm that I dislike it, or reinstall MacOS for a week just to re-discover that everything I love broke after Mojave.

I'm done arguing about this (just got back from a 3 day power outage), but TikTok doesn't make me any less depressed to see proliferate. I hope you enjoy yourself, regardless.



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