The problem is, most of those complaining have never tried to understand the complexity (and why it exists) because they've never built a highly complex frontend application! They're degrees removed and just throw stones from their glass houses.
Guess what, I'm not picking Spring to make a simple REST api when it takes 5 lines in Expressjs. Why? Spring is complete overkill. So along those lines, should you use React/Redux/Redux-{Thunk,Promise,Observable}/Navigation/etc if you need a simple 2 page site? NO! Jesus christ, you pick the right tool for the right job.
There's a reason though, when you have a highly complex app with insane business rules (that could very well be hidden from the airmchair HN crowd) where you need that complexity. And guess what, if you're highly versed in these "complex" frontend tools (spoiler: they're not complex), then it makes building sites, generally, very easy.
So go ahead, believe what you want and continue to parrot the "the frontend ecosystem is hopeless, needlessly complex and godless" while the rest of us continue developing with these "complex" tools because they make our lives as developers easier.
I'll sleep happy while you wait that one more second for the page to load.
Guess what, I'm not picking Spring to make a simple REST api when it takes 5 lines in Expressjs. Why? Spring is complete overkill. So along those lines, should you use React/Redux/Redux-{Thunk,Promise,Observable}/Navigation/etc if you need a simple 2 page site? NO! Jesus christ, you pick the right tool for the right job.
There's a reason though, when you have a highly complex app with insane business rules (that could very well be hidden from the airmchair HN crowd) where you need that complexity. And guess what, if you're highly versed in these "complex" frontend tools (spoiler: they're not complex), then it makes building sites, generally, very easy.
So go ahead, believe what you want and continue to parrot the "the frontend ecosystem is hopeless, needlessly complex and godless" while the rest of us continue developing with these "complex" tools because they make our lives as developers easier.
I'll sleep happy while you wait that one more second for the page to load.