You see the irony right? I'm only mocking the gatekeeping done in SF but they'd say you would have no claim to "watching SF die" if you moved there in the last ten years, because you killed it.
Rents have only dropped to levels seen in the last few years lol, and will just "crater" to 2010 levels once tech and students finish leaving.
I've visited San Francisco a few times. It's reasonably nice but it's also one of the smallest cities, population wise, out of cities with similar impact. It's also chock full of building with 1-2-3 floors.
It's absolutely ridiculous, a city of its magnitude should have 2-3 times its current population and 0 housing issues due to higher density housing.
The newcomers aren't to blame, as an outsider I'd blame the locals...
It’s in part old money lobbying to keep their properties out of the shade. Not even joking, I think it’s really that petty. There is a huge negative NIMBY force in this city
There's some of that, but you gotta wonder why the Outer Sunset isn't coated in luxury condos?
I think it's just that SF is very young, as cities go, and it's been the oddball city, you didn't move here in the past for a good job, you came here because you were weird, or queer, and wanted a place to fit in and be welcomed.
All these normal folks with great jobs moving here is very new, 20-25 years at most.
Oh yeah I don’t meant to put finality behind my statement, it’s just one piece of the puzzle that I have put together during my brief time here. I’ve had fun conversations with people that have lived around here for many decades, including my own grandparents who have lived here for even longer. It’s a city that has changed a lot, and meant many different things to many different people.
You hear fun stories from all kinds of characters hanging around dive bars here :) I had some good years hanging out at Lucky 13 and making tons of friends, but alas they are going out of business (for reals) now too :/
There are tons and tons of luxury condos, new and those under construction. A lot of the ones I have seen are in rincon hill (aka east cut after salesforce took over), mission bay, and dogpatch. Can’t speak for SoMa as much as I don’t visit it too often anymore
“Tech killed SF” is such a tired scapegoat. I also didn’t even work in tech when I first moved here, does that unfairly change your perception of my “killing SF”? Without the tech angle, arguments like this to me are reduced to the weight of “KIDS THESE DAYS DON’T GET IT AND RUIN EVERYTHING THAT I USED TO LIKE”
I don't care I'm mocking the entire sentiment. Every single thing I've ever heard about how "SF used to be" sounds even more unappealing than what it is today.
"Oh wow all the currently nice neighborhoods were sketchy ghettos? How quaint!"
but at least artists could live there!
As soon as you leave SF you will realize how weak and absurd the various generation's arguments about SF are.
Maybe it came across differently but I’m not so emotionally attached to this place that I can’t see past the romance tinted glasses. Any place you spend a good chunk of your life in will have an impact, one of those places was SF for me. I’m not defending anyone, or really standing on a platform of my own even. It was just a nice place to live for a while and it’s also nice to be moving on :)
Rents have only dropped to levels seen in the last few years lol, and will just "crater" to 2010 levels once tech and students finish leaving.