The first episode of the Jerry Brown podcast describes his transition from Jesuit seminary into politics and learning to come to grips with the difference between the world of ideas and absolutes, and the world of politics: https://www.kqed.org/podcasts/jerrybrown It'd be banal save for the fact that he goes from such one extreme to another.
EDIT: Looks like they haven't posted the first episode yet, just the 2 minute preview. I guess they're delaying the podcast in favor of the on-air broadcast.
EDIT: Looks like they haven't posted the first episode yet, just the 2 minute preview. I guess they're delaying the podcast in favor of the on-air broadcast.