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> The complex and normative dimensions of culture seem unique to our species, but were most likely built upon a very broad, pre-existing cultural capacity that we inherited from our ancestors.

Not an expert here, but I am excited by the notion that this would also extend to tool use. (Tools being part of an animal's culture, after all.)



Absolutely yes. I’m excited too.

The hand axe dates back to 2.7 mya [1], which precedes homo sapiens (~350 kya) by > 2 million years. Our ancestors were probably homo erectus at that point.

We were gathering around campfires, cooking meat and sharing a meal ~1.9 mya [2], again likely homo erectus.

Lots of culture predates humanity, but humanity is such a gradient (thanks to evolution). It’s like we need a different word, broader than humanity, to describe our entire genetic history, all the way back to abiogenesis.

Then, instead of our identity being so homo-sapiens-centric, all about this bipedal smarty-pants, we could additionally identify as having been fish, and small scurrying mammals, and single celled organisms, and anything else our ancestors have “been” along our path. Anyone know of such a word?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_axe#History_and_distribut...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campfire#History


> humanity is such a gradient

In general I think there is a lot of scientific insight to be gained from gettting more comfortable with gradients, instead of insisting on distinct categories. I remember a conversation with a biologists who was complaining that with European bird subspecies the categories are more like a representation of national boundaries and their institutions, masking a gradient of change that happens across the continent.

Same with languages, especially before nation states were a thing.


I'm excited by any research that brings our understanding of animals closer to that of humans. Switching from human-centric (if it doesn't match how humans do it, must not exist) to species-first analysis over the past few decades is getting us closer.

Decoding the basics of an existing animal language is an inflection point I hope we hit soon, which should lead to regular discoveries. We almost always assume each individual exists in a vacuum; so much can be gained once a few verbal cues click.




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