Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

This is why I’m religious. Christianity, in accordance with scripture and tradition, is a path to mental and spiritual well-being that was tested by my ancestors for millennia.

Sadly, as scripture tells us, many (most) people who claim to be Christians are wolves in sheep’s clothing. But there are plenty of wolves hiding in the guise of the other paths too. Caveat emptor.



Until very recently, your ancestors didn't have too much of a choice.


Every single one of my ancestors, back to the first, had a choice.


Also the dark ages, but now N(ietzs +che) predicted the down fall of Christianity a century ago which was tested by all atheist ancestors.


Western Atheism is just another gnostic Christian heresy, because it claims direct knowledge (gnosis) of God. It's nothing new and it always fails relatively quickly.


So was Plato and Aristotle, most respectable people who walked upon this earth?!


You're confusing agnosticism with atheism. Atheism claims direct knowledge of God, namely that He does not exist. Agnosticism on the other hand is the position that the question cannot be answered. Plato and Aristotle's position was one of agnosticism, not gnostic atheism.

By the way I consider the agnostic position to be entirely intellectually honest and defensible. I happen to believe otherwise, but a reasonable person can reach the agnostic position.


it's not another gnostic heresy if it predates Christianity.


Modern western atheism doesn't predate Christianity, it's a response to it. And pre-Christian agnosticism is both not gnostic (duh agnostic) and predates Christianity.


You're creating a weird distinction to try and justify that western atheism is derived from christianity, which doesn't make sense given that the same stances existed well before christianity.


I'm drawing the distinction between two separate intellectual strands that are, evidently, easily confused.

Contemporary western Atheism is observably derived from Christianity. After all today's atheist isn't motivated by pre-Christian philosophers' doubts about the nature of the Hellenic pantheon. Furthermore, Christianity makes metaphysical assertions that are so much stronger than the old Hellenic ones that they aren't even in the same class.




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: