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For those of us who don't curl,

"It’s like golf: it’s easy to watch a guy hit a golf ball, and you think, ‘This isn’t very athletic.’ And then you get out there yourself and find that it’s incredibly difficult."

Anyone know how much force is applied to the golf ball on a professional's drive?



Can't I hold both thoughts.

I don't think it's particularly athletic but I do think it's incredibly difficult.

It depends what we define by athletic. The old greek Ideal of a muscular, and healthy body is not something I associate with the standard pro golfer.


If you're #50 in the PGA in terms of average ball speed [0] and drive a regulation ball (46g)[1] at 175 mph (78 m/s), that ball has an energy of 140 J. If it accelerated from 0 to 78 m/s in 0.5 ms [2], it accelerated at 156 km/s^2 for that short time, at a power of 280kW (375 horsepower). The force applied to the ball was therefore 7100N, corroborated here [3].

A driver is 45" standard, but assuming that you don't hold the club at the tip we can call it 42" or 1 meter. You don't rotate the club where you hold it, but rather roughly at your shoulders (I will neglect hip rotation), and the average arm length is 25". Arms are not locked straight so let's call it a little shorter, and add 0.6 meters for the arm length.

You now have a 1.6m moment arm applying a force of 7100N through the ball, requiring 11.4 kN-m of torque, or 8400 lb-ft. Edit: I have discovered that wrist torque is significant, and that your wrist and your arms individually supply about 150 and 400 N-m of torque respectively. [4]

To compare, a high-end sports car might have 500 HP (compared to the golfer's 375 HP), and the Tesla P100D has 920 lb-ft of torque.

Of course, the golfer sustains this output for only half a millisecond, and a lower output during the rest of the swing (around 1 second). A car can do it until the tank or battery is empty.

Also I have neglected hip rotation, differing driver and arm lengths, and energy loss due to deformation. But this is a decent first approximation, and at very least in the correct order of magnitude.

[0] https://www.pgatour.com/stats/stat.02402.html [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf_ball [2] https://dspace.lboro.ac.uk/dspace-jspui/bitstream/2134/11470... [3] https://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/EmilyAccamando.shtml [4] http://rspa.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/465/2102/551


The peak power comes from the inertia of the club, not the player. The player puts out a much lower power over a longer period of time. 140j over the windup + swing is probably similar to what someone like a boxer needs to put out during a single punch.


Tour pros routinely swing driver at 120-125 mph, and produce ball speeds of 180-190 mph. I’ve seen numbers in the range of 2,000 - 4,000 pounds of force applied to the ball.




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