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> That's a reference to their [Nylos]* attempt to donate their code and energy towards improving Thunderbird.

(*My edit in brackets) You meant towards improving Nylas Mail, not Thunderbird? If not, I don't get any sense in this argument, it sounds like Nylas was reaching out Mozilla to replace Thunderbird with their re-licensed Nylas Mail. I'm not sure that ever happened (and I'm not sure GPL is a totally suitable license for Mozilla Foundation[1]). If you made a typo and meant "Nylas Mail", then I get your argument about development, but I see how community (me included) would be reluctant to make any contributions into a not entirely free product without forking.

> Huh?

Simply put, I'm fully agree that upstream Thunderbird could clearly indicate their will to move off Gecko to stimulate code contributions from community. I see how it might work out for the already popular, long time-tested, free Thunderbird, but I don't believe Nylos Mail is the same case here.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License



> My edit in brackets) You meant towards improving Nylas Mail, not Thunderbird?

No. What I wrote is what I meant.

> it sounds like Nylas was reaching out Mozilla to replace Thunderbird with their re-licensed Nylas Mail

Yes. (But not "replace", necessarily. Replace parts. Merge. Improve.)

> I'm not sure that ever happened

Uh, okay? If you hadn't heard that before, that's... fine. But, I mean, now you have. And I don't know what else to say.

> I'm not sure GPL is a totally suitable license for Mozilla Foundation

You're right; it's not. Thunderbird is MPL. They can't accept GPL contributions and continue to make releases available under MPL. That's why I specifically mentioned how Nylas relicensed their code to one that is compatible (MIT).

> I'm fully agree that upstream Thunderbird could clearly indicate their will to move off Gecko

I didn't say move off Gecko. I said dropping XUL. Moving off Gecko is almost definitely not in plans for the short term, and probably not even in the long term.

This conversation has been excruciating.


> Nylas relicensed their code to one that is compatible (MIT)

I was sure it's GPL, I missed that point.

> Uh, okay? If you hadn't heard that before, that's... fine.

> But, I mean, now you have. And I don't know what else to say.

> This conversation has been excruciating.

LOL, too much drama for the product below the radar. I can't even google anything about this proposal.




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