can you please list some puritan groups you refer to? maybe explain with an example what theyve done before to shape the internet atm? i have zero idea what is going on.
I like that there can be wild places on the internet where people can pieces of shit. 4Chan had communist trolls, Jew-hating trolls, Zionist-trolls, pro-Christian trolls, anti-Christian pro-pagan trolls. It didn't foster any fascism in society. It was just a place where people could say mostly what they want.
This error really went viral during the pandemic and continues to this day. We're in for an Orwellian future if the public does not cultivate some skeptic impulse.
I'd say the public needs to develop some rational impulse, it already has plenty of skepitism to the point where people no longer trust science the methodology. Instead, they genuinely believe there is some alternative to finding the truth, and now simply believe the same old superstitions and bunk that people have prior to the scientific revolution.
Speaking of Orwell, I don't think science comes into it. Rather, when people stop believing in democracy, things will degenerate into authoritarianism. It's generally pretty hard to use science the methodology to implement an authoritarian government as the scientific method by definition will follow the evidence, not the will of a dictator.
However, something that looks like science but isn't could be used, especially if the public doesn't understand science and thus can't spot things that claim to be science but don't actually follow the scientific method.
Critical thinking = the ability to be skeptical, literally it is the ability to criticize.
Great critical thinkers become lawyers, post modernist intellectuals, and other parts of the "talking" class of intellectuals. Unfortunately, it's far easier to talk shit than it is to build things. We've massively over-valued critical thinking over constructive thinking.
Most people want to dunk on science. Few people want to submit their own papers to conferences. Many people act like submitting papers is impossible for non-Ph.D's. We have a lack of constructive oriented thinking.
>Many people act like submitting papers is impossible for non-Ph.D's.
I agree. But academia reinforces this perception. I feel like PhD's only give serious consideration to the utterances of other PhD's. The rest of the public consists of the unwashed masses, and at best gets the smiling-nod treatment from teh PhD.
PS I (a non-PhD) managed to publish a paper during the pandemic (doi: 10.3389/fphar.2022.909945 ). One of the biggest barriers was the item you mentioned quoted above, and the bogeyman of "epistemic trespass" in general, as operating in my own psychology. I've since become noisy in advocating for the #DeSci movement.
> I'd say the public needs to develop some rational impulse, it already has plenty of skepitism to the point where people no longer trust science the methodology.
Methodologies are inanimate - I may trust that a methodology is fine, but once Humans become involved I do not trust.
> Instead, they genuinely believe there is some alternative to finding the truth
There are several alternate means, the field of philosophy (that birthed science) has been working on such problems for ages, and has all sorts of utility, just sitting there waiting to be used by Humanity.
> and now simply believe the same old superstitions and bunk that people have prior to the scientific revolution.
Not possible for you to know, unless there are indeed forms of supernatural (beyond current scientific knowledge) forms of perception.
> Rather, when people stop believing in democracy, things will degenerate into authoritarianism.
Once again, not possible for you to know.
> It's generally pretty hard to use science the methodology to implement an authoritarian government
COVID demonstrated that to be incorrect.
> as the scientific method by definition will follow the evidence, not the will of a dictator.
Incorrect. Something defined to be true necessarily being true only works in metaphysics, such as linguistics.
And again, the scientific method is inanimate.
> However, something that looks like science but isn't could be used, especially if the public doesn't understand science and thus can't spot things that claim to be science but don't actually follow the scientific method.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how comprehensively and accurately do you believe you understand science?
Let's see what that means. There are ~2000 lbs/ton, so 500 tons/second. Search returns "On average, a ton of coal produces 21 to 22 gigajoules of energy." That'd imply about 1 TW worth of coal.
In this video[0] of an open-pit mine, Sempertrans claims their conveyors move 6 meters per second,and elsewhere[1] they claim to move 18,000 tons an hour, ie 5 tons per second—just under 1 ton per meter of belt? It must be pretty dense, something like ~800kg/m^2? That checks out for cubes of lignite.
So only 198,000 such conveyors are needed in world.
Sometimes I want to but it's hard when every European country has tried to kill you. (Maybe there's one that was good to Jews, but I'm pretty sure there wasn't, for the simple reason that all the Jews would go there then, and the countries all the Jews went to, Spain and then Poland, then tried to kill us.) I don't want to have a grudge against a continent.
I don't think it's fair to apply that to Poland. Jews were well integrated into Polish society for most of its history during the Commonwealth era. Poland-Lithuania was a very pluralistic state with explicit protection in law for religious liberty, something that didn't exit in pretty much any other European state during the early modern era. The inquisition didn't operate there after the mid 16th century at all, just around the time when Spain was ramping it up.
Most of the examples of antisemitic repression in Poland took place during the post-partition era in the 19th century, when Poland was ruled by Russia, and Poles themselves faced similar repression by the Russian authorities.
1. Albania was part of the Ottoman Empire, which, while better than most of Europe for Jews, was not great; being "better than most of Europe" typically meant "you don't get killed every year" and still allows for significant antisemitism. I am willing to grant that they may not have wanted to be part of the Ottoman Empire, though, and there's little on antisemitic massacres. So I concede that I do not need to hold a grudge against Albania. Thank you, Albania.
2. As for Bulgaria...not deporting Jews to their death for one small period of time != lack of antisemitism in the past few hundred years.
According to the USHMM,[1] Bulgaria's actions in World War Two included:
Instituting laws that, among other things, forbid Jews from marrying non-Jews and restricted where Jews could live and what jobs they could have.
Deporting Jews who were not in Bulgaria pre-war (its borders expanded) to their deaths.
The day I discovered Napster is the day I unplugged. Wait forever for my favorite song as a kid to come on the radio or MTV? No thanks, the future was Napster.
Yes. It's paradoxical, but apparent if you engage in any kind of political discourse over here.
Nerds have always had some of the worst political stances, not because they're dumb but because they bend in face of the slightest pressure of losing social capital - in the current climate, this usually means submitting to the most psychotic leftist interpretation that is physically proximate to them.
Explains the politics of places like SF quite well.
