didn't Sam does this before with another company? he was able to restructure it and come out on top... searching for article... was it Helion? now that i think harder, didnt he comment about it on HN??
It kind of was a piece of shit with that little RAM (128k). That was rectified with the Fat Mac (512k) 8 months later in september of 1984. It was still quite expensive compared to the PC clones that were common by late 1984 though.
There was an interesting dynamic for a while in the 80s between text mode and bitmapped personal computers. Bitmapped computers were generally for companies in design etc, well-todo individuals and academics. To the rest they seemed very nice but frivolous due to the very high cost. That 512k Mac in Sep 1984: US$2,795 (equivalent to $7,870 in 2022).
At the time of the introduction of that first feasible mac you could get a PC 5150 clone with the same amount of RAM and much crappier CGA graphics for half of the price. And then the gap just started getting wider over the next few years.
Seriously though, those quotes are hilarious .. especially Kahns' - this would be seem to have been quite a determined position for him to take, given Borlands' subsequent near-complete disinterest in the platform in the following years.
I wonder what Borland would be today if they hadn't ignored the Mac? Delphi for MacOS? Wow, what that would have done for us all ..
Or, better yet, Delphi for BeOS. Just another case of "DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPERS!" coming to the wrong minds at the wrong time ..
Borland did not die because they ignored the Mac, they died because they tried to transform from being a sub $100 consumer/mass-market product company to an enterprise offering and failed at doing so. The Mac wasn't a factor.
They still would have died when Linux/open source took off though. They didn't own a platform.
>I don't think I've ever been somewhere where the locals were as suspicious of tourists. The pandemic gutted their economy so the feeling of hopelessness hung around even relatively remote places we visited along the Road to Hana.
I went to Maui last year for the first time. I've visited Kauai in my teens (we had family who lived there) this was the vibe then that they described -- tourists are generally not accepted, esp at the local surf spots. I actually found Maui more welcoming.
i always hear this but i surfed all over hawaii (kauai north and south, oahu north shore and bowls, mauis west side and honolua bay) and never had an issue and ppl have been between friendly and neutral to me.
I've had similar experiences (not surfing) where people say "place X hates tourists" or "don't go to Y they don't like Americans" but have never run into any notable issues.
I suspect that for some people "neutral" is "hates my guts" or something, or some people are stereotypically tourists in such a way that it'd piss people off in their hometown.
As an American, this has been my experience with French people. Everyone tells me how rude they are, and how they dislike Americans. Meanwhile, I've met a ton of French people and they have all been absolutely wonderful, polite, and totally friendly.
Actually, I brought this up the first time I met two Frenchmen when I was 19 in NYC. They were tourists and I was surprised and mentioned that I was under the impression that French people disliked Americans, and they said "No, we love them! Just maybe in Paris, you will not like it, but the rest of France is much better!"
Idk what to take from that, but the point is, French people are great ime.
Part of it is that many Americans really are obnoxious as tourists and with a big population that can afford to travel we are sending a lot of those obnoxious people around the world.
If you make some effort to learn the basics of the language and blend in to the existing vibe rather than acting like you're on spring break in Daytona Beach, mostly people will realize you're not one of those Americans and you won't have any problem.
This is a good point. I bet it's much more that locals are tired of obnoxious tourists, and not tourists in general or tourists from any particular country.
I've never had any issue with anyone, French or otherwise, in Paris as a tourist, so I'm not sure where it comes from. I can only assume it's people who treat Paris as if it were some funny form of a US Walmart.
I have similarly not had the problems others describe. I suspect that many people need a guide or lesson on how to be good tourist/guest. Too many act entitled as tourists.
I push back at home on what I perceive as poor service or behavior from civil servants. Abroad, I try to not expect that everything is done as in my home culture. Just having the right attitude makes others less unfriendly.
Point is this is (unfortunately imo) part of surf culture in general and isn't specific to Hawaii. Hawaii is known for localism, but so are many other places around the world. Santa Cruz CA, for example, is one of the worst.
The gatekeeping makes absolute sense if you hop on YouTube to see the difference in behavior between Waikiki and even the more well known spots on the North Shore.
Once they did away with their iconic branding I couldn't find their beer in stores in the East Bay -- and when I noticed it I didn't recognize it. California Lager was one of my favorite beers. RIP old friend.
Yeah, that rebrand was a big mistake. It marked exactly when I couldn’t find it at the grocery store and bought something else. Eventually I did find the new yellow box, but by then I was trying new things…
