> i thought including the stock amazon pays well these days
Stock is not pay. As the old saying goes, "A bird in the hand is worth N in the bush, where N is a value that people whose profession is to guess the value of N cannot guess the value of."
It's not, but it'd also be foolish to ignore that RSU's can be fairly easily exercised and translate into real money. It's probably more accurate to say that the stock isn't worth the face value, but RSU's certainly does have value at public companies.
Amazon stock is pay. It has a monetary value that it is easily convertible into. If your point is that RSUs have vesting schedules, annual salary does too, in the form of paychecks.
Same, except I had an extra phone screen because I fucked up the logic portion (guess I'm dumb). Still got the job, and then finished the internship, then got a return offer.
For that goal sure. For life, I am sure s/he has moved goalposts like we do :)
I have a reverse question for you though: has this kind of questioning worked out fine for you till now in real life?
An unwanted tip fwiw: it comes across as belittling an achievement (whatever it might be) from a quick glance. You probably don't mean it that way- in which case do look at rewording that into something like 'has it been everything you hoped for' :)
Probably SDE. It's a similar process for everyone.
There's a lot of handwringing about it because it basically lets Googlers and Facebookers shit on our employee quality now (and you know they think we're inferior).
I couldn't care less about what Google or Facebook employees think; at the end of the day I'm just thinking of whether I did the best I could, there's a certain peace in it.
Absolutely. I encourage the previous poster to get yourself to a point where you are happy with your current situation. Do more things that make you happy in your day to day, find things you can get lost in "flow", invest more in important personal relationships / give more, start a gratitude journal, etc.
Ironically once you can be happy without Facebook, you are actually more likely to get into Facebook or whatever company because you'll be more detached from the outcome and more able to focus.
This. I am confident I'd fail any current US corporate enterprise interview and I've had a happy successful 35 year career in computer science and networking. Don't fight for something as tenuous as a cubicle farm in a Plex.
The worst part of my rejections is that I cannot even pass recruiters - apparently I cannot sell myself good enough despite that I’m somewhat confident that I’ll do good at technical interviews. Looks like a common problem to introverts.
As an introvert myself I can feel the pain. It only gets worse once you get into one of the big soulless companies out there. You get trampled and backstabbed every step along the way by the extroverts that -regardless of their technical skills- are better in politics, self-promotion and managing your clueless managers.
Hell - I'm currently regretting not going for a sailors' career when I could.
I think sheer practice can help here--when I haven't interviewed for a while, I'm rusty at telling "my story," but once back in the process, it begins to flow again. (rusty flow?)
>> don't hinge your happiness on something as random as an interview decision
This is easier for senior folks. At some point you just know the rejection was a failure of their interview process and not your ineptitude. I have failed several interviews at different companies where I was one of the best people _in the world_ for the job due to my domain expertise. It's a roll of the dice for everyone, but earlier in my career I did not take rejection well. Now? Honeybadger don't care.
Keep trying, and don’t take it to your heart. The whole interview circus is stupid and everybody knows it. The only people who think they’re the smartest around are the ones who never worked with folks who are truly, freakishly gifted. I’ve been lucky in that regard, so I no longer have any illusions about my intellectual prowess. Over time you will see that intellect isn’t everything, nor does it guarantee success. Stay in the industry, change jobs every 2 years, put yourself in the path of serendipity, and do a good job. Mobility will come eventually.
You've posted about this numerous times before. The first, extensive discussion may have had some intellectual curiosity, but at this point it's becoming repetitive and tedious. Please don't keep bringing it up.
Edit: actually, I've banned this account because repeating this turns out to be all it's been doing. Single-purpose accounts aren't allowed here, and when you repeat something as much as this one has, it's indistinguishable from trolling (which is why some users have been wondering if it's a troll account). Please don't use HN this way again.
You could probably leverage 2-3 years at Amazon to a much better job somewhere else as a cloud guy. It is all about credentialling and other signalling, to get your foot in the door. Remember the only purpose of a CV is to secure an interview.
Well, it depends. Any F500 hiring manager would pay top dollar for an ex-Amazon guy to work on their cloud effort, maybe not as much as a FANG but 9-5 with decent job security. If you were looking to settle down somewhere long-term it might be worth the hit.
It's a big company so I applied online. Come to think of it all the companies I've accepted were the same way, though I've gotten interviews by directly reaching out to recruiters.
I just browsed through it and there's a ton of Amazon workers bragging about how hot they are and how much money they make, how girls in Seattle won't suffice because the "attractive ones aren't well educated", masturbation, "dealing with dumb people".
The key is to just laugh it off and consider it trolling, jokes, whatever. Most of it is but there's useful info there also and people who feel oppressed by the SJW movement at work let off the steam in a safe space (how ironic).
God forbid people address an issue directly. I accidentally upset a coworker by a comment I made, we had lunch and it was addressed. I realized why it bothered the person, we hugged and moved on and have a good working relationship.
Blind just sounds plain stupid and a terrible idea for work place culture.
>As a male engineer I look down on you f%%ks that wear the same s%%t everyday, you are the s%%theads that premature optimize a code and add tons of complexity to save unneeded CPU cycles. Bet you wear the same boxers for days without washing in the name of efficiency.
It's pretty much 4chan for tech bros, but it does seem to be quite diverse tech bros, yes.
It doesn’t matter as long as the company you got into was good lol (it wasn’t like that for me)