Not reading the sources that extreme ideologues read is to lack critical information and perspective important to understanding those who you dissagree with or even find reprehensible.
I think the bar analogy lacks some important nuance. Not participating on the platform is one thing but drawing a distinction between being informed and support for
the platform needs a little more thought here.
IMO social media is not a type of source I have to participate in order to get information. I can read the far right’s opinion though actual sources and news aggregators without Twitter at all.
To continue the analogy, I need not go to a Nazi bar to read the headlines of the local newspaper to see what the latest propaganda is.
I agree that participation is not nessecary as I mentioned. But I find the way people comment and the back and forth on twitter interesting data. From the raw feelings or nation state bots pushing certain narratives, I personally find it informative viewing the platform where these interactions happen beyond divorced headlines.
95% of it is garbage, but as a member of a targeted class of people I like to see what angles they are coming for us from way ahead of time.
I'm always reminded of the Snowden revelations that the GCHQ was (and still is) saving, catagorizing, and performing deep packet inspection of all internet traffic.
Nothing suprises me anymore in the UK. It's been extremely dystopian for a long time.
Imagine if rent and housing costs were reflected the vacancy rate.
I never really understood the economics of leaving spaces empty and not hemorrhaging money.
My guess would be its a game of large numbers where private equity can own large swaths of properties and can afford to keep them vacant by controlling the market through manufactured scarcity? Is it like the diamond market?
they're playing the long game and it's better to hold and not hold.
plus keep rents high and the handful of folks that really need it will pay it.
several cities get around this by having under-utilization taxes -- e.g. slap an extra 30% on any property in X neighborhoods that are empty or otherwise cannot prove 50% occupancy
All overdoses and accidents like this are tragic but I struggle with the whole insinuation that we should blame an app like ChatGPT for the decisions folks make with their own bodies.
ChatGPT is a hell of a lot safer than the friends I had in high school.
I would assume so. It's sort of a catch 22 because if they delete your data, they have no way of knowing about you when they buy another batch of data. To have some sort of no track list, they have to keep your data.
I'm also skeptical it will have any real effect. The law requires them to process deletion requests at a 45 day interval:
> Data brokers are required to process deletion requests at least once every 45 days beginning August 1, 2026.
But what if Broker A (based in CA) has a contract with Broker B, who doesn't do business in CA, to sync data once a day. Now Broker A will have your data on 44 out of 45 days and still be fully compliant with the law. Furthermore, it's not difficult to figure out when that 45 day interval comes up, so I would expect customers to figure that out and time their purchases accordingly.
> I would assume so. It's sort of a catch 22 because if they delete your data, they have no way of knowing about you when they buy another batch of data. To have some sort of no track list, they have to keep your data.
They could store a normalised, hashed version of your data and use it to filter any incoming datasets. But, of course, why would they?
That wouldn't really work because the hash key has to be both specific enough to be unique to you and also general enough to cover any incomplete data set that matches you.
It would work in many cases, though not all. You would not hash everything together. Instead, you hash normalized identifiers independently, such as email address, phone number, or physical address. An incoming dataset would only need to match one of these to be excluded.
Also often not unique to a person, although email addresses probably tend to have much longer lifespans as identifiers than phone numbers.
If the idea is to have a true opt-out system, it's really really difficult to implement given how these systems work.
If you look at the data provided by services like accurint, you'll frequently see the same SSNs used for decades by multiple different individuals, often with IDs from different states with the same name and DoB despite obviously being different people. With how the system works in the US, it can often be impossible for anyone to determine which physical person the SSN was actually originally assigned to.
Same obviously applies to other identifiers you suggested, but even the seemingly good ones are not very good at uniquely identifying people.
You could of course key on things like SSNs, but data brokers wouldn't be very happy about that because there are lots of SSNs tied to multiple different people.
The government will, given that they're a fairly integral part of how the US economy.
Every single financial institution relies on these data-brokers. U-haul needs data brokers to be able to verify your driver's license, the TSA needs data brokers to let you on a flight without an ID. There are simply countless of reasons for why you wouldn't want to break this system for people who haven't opted in for breakage.
You can see this in action today, if you make the effort to manually remove yourself from data brokers.
Some of the brokers do offer an easy removal process and will handle your request right away, but then your record will reappear after some amount of time, obviously purchased from another broker.
I would not be surprised to discover that these individual brokers are, in fact, owned by the same entity and they merely exchange records periodically.
This is the reason that I choose to use Optery. They have the bandwidth and tools to chase my records on my behalf, for as long as I pay them.
> I would assume so. It's sort of a catch 22 because if they delete your data, they have no way of knowing about you when they buy another batch of data. To have some sort of no track list, they have to keep your data.
If I ever stumble upon such an obvious oversight/loophole, I find it's best to not immediately stop, but to ask: "How do they intend to solve this?"
In this case, the first part of the terms of use solves your conundrum:
> By submitting a deletion request through DROP, you consent to disclosure of your personal information to data brokers for purposes of processing your deletion request pursuant to Civil Code section 1798.99.80 et seq. unless or until you cancel your deletion request. Additionally, you acknowledge that data brokers receiving your deletion request will delete any non-exempt "personal information," as defined in Civil Code section 1798.140(v), which pertains to you and was collected from third parties or from you in a non-"first party" capacity (i.e., through an interaction where you did not intend or expect to interact with the data broker).
This has already been happening for years.
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