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Are the satellite API's free?

    Yes. The raw telemetry comes from the Sentinel-2 constellation, which is open access

    However, querying the raw hub is slow :( API hosts the same data but indexes it via the STAC standard.

    You don't pay for data, you only pay for the compute to process the pixels.

The fact that this page doesn't render well on mobile doesn't bode well

Don't discount the fact that bad new sells.

In a way it's good but as far as energy usage goes, it sucks.

Not only is it taking way more energy to write software now with LLMS than by "hand", now everyone is repeating work many times over to write the same tools.

From a freedom standpoint one could argue is gives the user the most freedom to have what they want and need. But its very bad from an energy efficiency point of view.


Man, living in Canada, I wish we were allowed to import Chinese cars. If America is putting tariffs on us and threatening our sovereignty, that's all the more reason to divest from American made cars.

To be fair, you don't know if that couple is just out for dinner because they didn't make anything at home that day. You don't know if they've been around eachother and off their phones for the past 24 hours. I have the opposite anecdotal experience to yours. Lots of people at restaurants are not on their phones but I've also stopped caring to look honestly.

Or maybe one of them is responding to another human being in their life over their phone, and as that results in a break in conversation, the other person starts using theirs.

"Google follows industry-standard crawling protocols, and honors websites’ directives over crawling of their content."

Is that true with how they trained Gemini? Doesn't everyone with a foundational model scrape the web relentlessly without regard for robots.txt?


No, but AFAIK they pulled some shenanigans with "bundling" Gemini scraping and search engine scraping.

Almost everybody wants to appear in search, so disallowing the entirety of Google is far more costly than E.G. disallowing Openai, who even differentiates between content scraped for training and content accessed to respond to a user request.


While there isn't a way to differentiate between scraping for training data and content accessed in response to a user request, I think you can block Googlebot-extended to block training access.

They're in a unique position where many people allow googlebot but try to block most other bots

Allow for the purpose of indexing, not training models.

Like if you give a friend a key to your house so they can check on your plants when you're out of town but they throw a rager and trash the place.


> throw a rager

That was not a phrase I expected to read on Hacker News! Haven't heard it since I was about 13. I always assumed it was a Scottish phrase.


I've never been to Scotland and I don't know any Scottish people.

But yes, I am dating myself with that phrase...


Google honors robots.txt. They're not "everyone with. a foundational model" though.

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Scraping for search engines is different. They need to scrape the data to build the index, otherwise the search wouldn’t work.

Being indexed in a search engine benefits the website owner, as it drives traffic towards the website.

Being used as AI training data provides negative value for a website owner, as it takes traffic away.

It's the difference between a movie review, and a ripped torrent.


So you mean to say it is different because it needs to be different to exist?

Following that same logic, may I inform you that your income going forward is different: it has to be directed to my bank account, because the account needs the money! :-)


Anyone else a bit tired of the "The Unbearable Joy of..." Titles? I'm sure sitting in a cafe is bearable.


Nah, every time some parody of this title comes up, it reminds me of the book and the movie. I like that :)


Juliette Binoche was perfect in the role.

I didn't read the book but I read The Book of Laughter and Forgetting. An eye-opener for a young college student.


True, “The Unbearable Lightness of…” is a much better choice


Yes, this and "unreasonable effectiveness" are both clichés at this point, and need to take a nice long rest.


"Unbearable Joy Considered Harmful"


-- Stanford experts and scientists weight in


What's the benefit of taking aspirin regularly anyways?


It’s supposed to help reduce clotting, and thus help a bit to prevent a heart attack, at least that’s what I understood from my heart doctor. Generally you’d take the 81mg “baby aspirins” for this, not a full adult dose.


or in this case one fizzy tablet every three days? Are tehre people doing this long term? Doesn't sound all that compatible with colon.


After a heart procedure my doctor told me to take the 81mg daily for the rest of my life. It’s been about 20 years now, with no side effects that I know of.


So is there some catch all setting I can enable in my router to prevent my devices talking to eachother on the local network?

Heads up that even if you block local forwarding in the router, it won't always be enough to prevent devices talking to each other over, say, an unmanaged switch or a wifi link.

Some (even cheap) unmanaged switches have a "vlan" or "isolation" switch that does exactly that, where only one or two "uplink" or "wan" ports can talk to the rest. If you have a managed switch, vlans is what most people would use for isolation.

On the software side you could also assign /32 IPv4 addresses only and add explicit ip route for the router only.


I'm in the middle of setting up DD-WRT on an old router (I'd use OpenWRT if I could) just to play around with VLANs and AP isolation.

Instead of that I highly recommend either setting up a VM or picking up a $35 thin client and running OPNSense. After years of OpenWRT/DD-WRT I switched about 5 years ago and oh my god what a difference. You will spend basically 0 time on system maintenance and just focus on the actual networking stuff. It has more knobs than a basic router but the UI is excellent and there are very few bugs, if any.

In most shitty routers: no. They don't even have raw ability to do that.

You can look around for something like device isolation, but I doubt you'll find it unless you go a couple of steps up from whatever router ISPs ~give away these days.


My ISP's router has isolation. Has had for 5+ years. Main SSID has it off so we can do LAN stuff. Guest SSID is used for IoT things and isolation turned off. Handy.

What exactly does it isolate? An SSID? IP addresses? individual MAC addresses? How does this stop a pre-infected device you purchased from shitting traffic out of your network, acting as a residential proxy or try to own your other IoT devices?

The one I've seen on ~basic consumer routers just disallows wifi devices from talking to each other at all, it won't route between them. I usually need something more nuanced personally, but it's not a bad start at all.

Sometimes; I've seen it called client isolation or something like that. Or, yeah, if you can get under the hood it's probably as easy as one or two iptables rules (or nftables or whatever).

Is this true? For devices on the same subnet, I'm petty sure they don't even have to takl to the router. Maybe a managed switch can stop it, but I doubt most home routers have anything more than a dumb switch in them.

It depends™:) Yeah, if you have a dumb switch with devices plugged in, then the upstream router probably isn't relevant. But if you've got all devices on wifi running through a single box that's a router+switch+WAP+modem (very common in consumer home networking) then that single network box is in an excellent position to control devices talking to each other. YMMV.

Client isolation is a Wi-Fi feature, not an Ethernet feature. So a wireless client can't talk directly to another wireless client when client isolation is on.

Wired clients are unaffected.


usually lan devices do not talk to the router unless they need a resource outside your lan network

you can however isolate with vlans and a vlan capable switch, then it would be on the router to isolate traffic between lans (I do exactly this for my less trusted virtual machines)


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