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This is exactly what has happened with the same junk science tech that “Shotspotter” uses. There are recorded incidents of police leaning on support staff to alter the location of a potential detection. And their junk science software is closed source. So when they are involved in a case, the defense has subpoena their source code and voila! Shotspotter is dropped from the prosecution’s exhibit list. You see Shotspotter can’t afford to have their code scrutinized. Have you figured out why? (Junk science)


Because “political work” is an oxymoron


I got tired of hearing the same spiel about how dangerous motorcycles are, so I used a stencil to airbrush “organ donor” on the side of my helmet along with my blood type.


In the UK, I believe the death rate per mile is approx 100x greater on a motorbike vs car. I would call this a significant difference.


I’d like to piggyback on your comment to get your (and broader audiences) opinion on a situation I’m facing:

I’ve recently learned my 5 year old is exhibiting behavior problems in kindergarten. His teacher has put the notion in his mother’s head that he may have autism and has provided his mother a fast track referral to have him tested/diagnosed. I feel strongly that he does not have autism; aside from being disruptive in class he doesn’t have any other characteristics—-he is very verbal, social, doesn’t avoid eye contact or physical contact. I’ve spoken to his Sunday school teachers, daycare workers, etc and they were incredulous that he potentially has autism.

‘Well if he doesn’t have it what’s the harm in having him tested at a facility that specializes in pediatric autism? If you’re right they’ll easily determine he’s not autistic, right?’ Is the question I can imagine being asked at my reluctance to consent to the testing and diagnostics. Frankly, I’m suspicious of the (potential) conflict of incentives that a clinic specializing in pediatric autism may have; I positive diagnosis is only good for business in the way that a men’s clinic is incentivized to find every patient that walks through their door has low testosterone. Especially considering the subjectivity and ‘spectrum’ that falls under the blanket term ‘autism’.

On a scale from likely to incredibly unlikely, how rooted in reality would you characterize my concerns? Also what harm, if any would come from a false positive diagnosis? Would it outweigh the harm of a person being an undiagnosed, high functioning person with autism?


I am way way out of my wheelhouse here. But you asked, so I'll share my experience and opinion in a roundabout way.

When I was a kid, my parents' nicknames for me were Spock and Ms. Literal. I was gifted, at the top of my class, and my parents advocated for me every single year so that I received a high-quality education. The school was receptive, and I thrived academically. I struggled socially, but being a girl it demonstrated in a lack of friends rather than behavioral disruption. So in every way I was the ideal student. Today I would easily be diagnosed as autistic, but in the 90s that wasn't in the conversation. Especially given our experience with my cousin. I don't think of myself as autistic, I'm just a person with strengths and weaknesses.

Today for better or worse we live in a society that thrives on labels and categorization. Your kid gets a label and all of a sudden the school is able to give him an IEP and the support he deserves and should have been getting all along. In the cynical perspective, your kid gets a label and that affects the way he sees himself and relates to the world. The label becomes a justification instead of just a descriptor.

From the educational perspective, I want the school to do everything possible to help my child succeed. If that means jumping through hoops to get him support then so be it. But from the identity perspective I want my kid to be unburdened. To learn from the world around him without getting pigeonholed. And if a diagnosis was going to lead down this path I would be very intentional about when and to whom I disclosed this information.

This isn't getting into the world of false positives. In my experience (2 boys similar in age to your own) teachers tend to be good referrers just because of the volume of kids they deal with. So if your teacher recommends this there's a good chance they will fall under some diagnostic criteria at some testing facility. The question is what to do with the information.


thanks so much for sharing this.


The school system needs an Official™ medical justification to grant your kid extra accommodations for whatever his behavioral issues are. They are less interested in whether he "actually" has autism than in a rubber stamp that gives them more options for managing him. Which might indeed be a good thing for your son! It's hard to say without being closer to the situation.


Thanks. That indeed was one of the questions I had in my mind--"what changes once a diagnosis or label has been affixed?"


The weakest link of the proposed technology like this is guaranteed fallibility of the folks using it, ie the judicial system and the asymmetric power dynamic against those it supposedly serves.

This is a very common scenario: a sheriffs deputy holds a biased belief against an individual. Said deputy selects and overfits data from systems like this to obtain a warrant against said individual. Individual is arrested and enters the meat grinder that is the justice system where hundreds of experienced indifferent agents and millions of dollars are put to work to support that deputies biased accusation. That original bad actor can now disengage and go about their life. Meanwhile, our Individual must spend a fortune on legal defense to prove their innocence. Individual loses time, money, peace, and reputation pursuing the best case realistic scenario—having charges dismissed (though indefinitely tainting their record). The more realistic scenario is individual is unjustly punished to some degree through plea agreements or trial (if they can afford it) which could easily ruin the rest of their life.

I’m not on the ACAB extreme, I just personally know many law enforcement officers and work in the industry adjacent to the justice system.


> Said deputy selects and overfits data from systems like this to obtain a warrant against said individual.

Or no warrant at all, the chief just wants to stalk his ex: https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article29105...

> A Sedgwick, Kansas, police chief used Flock Safety license plate readers to track his ex-girlfriend and her new boyfriend’s vehicles 228 times over four-plus months and used his police vehicle to follow them out of town, according to a city official and a report released this week by the agency that oversees police certifications.

> Nygaard’s reasons included “suspicious” and “missing child” and “drug investigation” and “drugs” and “narcotics investigation” and “suspicious activity” and “drug invest” and “drug use,” according to the KSCPOST order.

> Nygaard won’t face any charges, but he did lose his police certification.


Access logs are meaningless when police are only accountable to themselves and unions shield them from any disciple of their wrongdoings


and you just get your coworkers to look up your ex for you


I was an infoseek.com man myself, but we probably still could have been friends.


gkrellm, konqueror, irssi, xmms

of course i had to dual-boot windows so i could still program in vb6 and be a general shit on AOL


That may have even been in the x11amp days.


Melodramatic much?


Or if the build quality of their vehicles was not up to par with US regulation or the quality standards the US market is accustomed to..which seems very possible given the connotations generally shared domestically around the phrase “made in china”


The build quality of Chinese electric cars is generally pretty good.

In the past "made in Germany" used to have derogatory connotations due to German goods being worse than British ones too.

As for regulations, the BYD cars consistently rank very highly on the stringent Euro NCAP tests: https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal-u/50187


Teslas have a reputation for shoddy quality but they’re still sold in the US, i’m sure BYD will be fine


Chinese made Tesla's are generally acknowledged to be higher quality than American Tesla's.


"Made in China" in the US typically means "made cheaply" - which, if you look at what people buy, is actually what people typically want.

You get what you pay for.

In the case of electric cars, China has their own domestic market that actually wants to drive a decent car, and so they are building for that.

BYD cars aren't particularly "cheap" in the way a "Made in China" spatula is.


In the automotive world, US cars are the ones who have an image of poor quality. GM, Ford, and Tesla are routinely viewed as shoddy and suspiciously built.


I would assume so since much of the code seems to have been stolen in the first place


Or made by a contractor or is cots in another region?


Well, they did set up the database to receive all the information.

So they're clearly aware it's happening.


s/stolen/illegitimately used/g


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