I'm sure you're aware but it's worth pointing out that you will lose all your cache hit discounts with some providers. The next turn will incur the cost of the whole trajectory billed at fresh input token rates.
As an aside, 95 pages into the system card for Claude Opus 4.6, Anthropic acknowledges that they have disabled prompt prefill.
Yes, I have already made deliberate cache decisions and plan to do more once it's working the way I imagine. I think the trimmed down context will have way bigger effect than the cache stuff, though.
As far as I understand, it's caches are not a "next-turn" thing, but a ttl thing.
I made the "retrieve" tool, which is what pulls back previously removed content, append to the conversation rather than putting it back where it previously was. But it's a but premature to really know if that's a real optimization.
It's mostly the US and a few other small markets that even have millimeter wave 5G NR. This is mostly due to the fact that FCC had not wound down analog broadcasts in time, and mmWave/FR2 was the only way to do 5G in the US initially, as lower C-band were not freed up until 2021. Deployments of mmWave exist solely due to the sunk cost of existing equipment and narrow use-cases like stadiums and concerts.
The article predates our current reality where C-band (3.5GHz) is available for 5G
There is an A16z company that does exactly this, called yupp.ai. They need genuine labelling/feedback in return, but you get to either spend credits on expensive APIs or cash out. Likewise, openrouter has free endpoints from some providers who will retain your sessions for training.
It does not have to be VRAM, it could be system RAM, or weights streamed from SSD storage. Reportedly, the latter method achieves around 1 token per second on computers with 64 GB of system RAM.
R1 (and K2) is MoE, whereas Llama 3 is a dense model family. MoE actually makes these models practical to run on cheaper hardware. DeepSeek R1 is more comfortable for me than Llama 3 70B for exactly that reason - if it spills out of the GPU, you take a large performance hit.
If you need to spill into CPU inference, you really want to be multiplying a different set of 32B weights for every token compared to the same 70B (or more) instead, simply because the computation takes so long.
The amount of people who will be using it at 1 token/sec because there's no better option, and have 64 GB of RAM, is vanishingly small.
IMHO it sets the local LLM community back when we lean on extreme quantization & streaming weights from disk to say something is possible*, because when people try it out, it turns out it's an awful experience.
* the implication being, anything is possible in that scenario
Good. Vanishingly small is still more than zero. Over time, running such models will become easier too, as people slowly upgrade to better hardware. It's not like there aren't options for the compute-constrained either. There are lots of Chinese models in the 3-32B range, and Gemma 3 is particularly good too.
I will also point out that having three API-based providers deploying an impractically-large open-weights model beats the pants of having just one. Back in the day, this was called second-sourcing IIRC. With proprietary models, you're at the mercy of one corporation and their Kafkaesque ToS enforcement.
You said "Good." then wrote a nice stirring bit about how having a bad experience with a 1T model will force people to try 4B/32B models.
That seems separate from the post it was replying to, about 1T param models.
If it is intended to be a reply, it hand waves about how having a bad experience with it will teach them to buy more expensive hardware.
Is that "Good."?
The post points out that if people are taught they need an expensive computer to get 1 token/second, much less try it and find out it's a horrible experience (let's talk about prefill), it will turn them off against local LLMs unnecessarily.
Had you posted this comment in the early 90s about linux instead of local models, it would have made about the same amount of sense but aged just as poorly as this comment will.
I'll remain here happily using 2.something tokens / second model.
I'd rather use Arch over a genuine VT100 than touch Windows 11, so the analogy remains valid - at least you have a choice at all, even if you are in a niche of a niche.
agentic loop can run all night long. It's just a different way to work: prepare your prompt queue, set it up, check result in the morning, adjust.
'local vibe' in 10h instead of 10mn is still better than 10 days of manual side coding.
Right on! Especially if its coding abilities are better than Claude 4 Opus. I spent thousands on my PC in anticipation of this rather than to play fancy video games.
Typically a combination of expert level parallelism and tensor level parallelism is used.
For the big MLP tensors they would be split across GPUs in a cluster. Then for the MoE parts you would spread the experts across the GPUs and route to them based on which experts are active (there would likely be more than one if the batch size is > 1).
DDR3 workstation here - R1 generates at 1 token per second. In practice, this means that for complex queries, the speed of replying is closer to an email response than a chat message, but this is acceptable to me for confidential queries or queries where I need the model to be steerable. I can always hit the R1 API from a provider instead, if I want to.
Given that R1 uses 37B active parameters (compared to 32B for K2), K2 should be slightly faster than that - around 1.15 tokens/second.
The full thing, 671B. It loses some intelligence at 1.5 bit quantisation, but it's acceptable. I could actually go for around 3 bits if I max out my RAM, but I haven't done that yet.
If you mean clearly, noticeably erratic or incoherent behaviour, then that hasn't been my experience for >=4-bit inference of 32B models, or in my R1 setup. I think the others might have been referring to this happening with smaller models (sub-24B), which suffer much more after being quantised below 4 or 5 bits.
My R1 most likely isn't as smart as the output coming from an int8 or FP16 API, but that's just a given. It still holds up pretty well for what I did try.
I said it was a very European thing to say, because only a European would stretch that hard.
Merikan company with Merikan investment get the credit. No one cares except Europeans about the interchangable workers residency is.
I'm trying to remember the other case where people lol'd at Europe/Italy for taking credit for something that was clearly invented in the US. I think the person was born there, and moved to the US, but Italy still took credit.
lol no. Its probably even more embarrassing that they left Europe.
You could also check the world catalog to see if a library near you offers the ebook for lending. Universities typically allow the general public to walk in and look at books without registration.
As an aside, 95 pages into the system card for Claude Opus 4.6, Anthropic acknowledges that they have disabled prompt prefill.
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