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4. used electronics in 3rd world countries are much more expensive compared to developed ones (because not as much units were sold when they were new to begin with), so 50 euros will get you a 3rd gen in a poor condition at best (or some shit tier Celeron N-thousand something with a soldered 4GB RAM)


Few issues with that.

For one, PCs still make it there via ewaste shipments that then get repaired and sold for cheap, so you can have decent variety of old stuff.

And secondly, even a "3rd gen in a poor condition at best (or some shit tier Celeron N-thousand something with a soldered 4GB RAM)" as you call it, is better for learning marketable skills and making stuff, than whatever you can do on your phone, since office jobs will ask for skills with using a PC, not how skilled you are using a phone.

But hey, if you think you can pass through engineering school with only a phone and no computer, then all power to you.


> For one, PCs still make it there via ewaste shipments that then get repaired and sold for cheap, so you can have decent variety of old stuff.

No you can't. Unlike you, I'm talking from experience when I'm telling what €50 gets you in used marked in a non-developed country.


Just today I got a 15 year used laptop in a "developed country" (Germany) for €30. Windows 10 works in a VM. It did come with Windows 11, but I wiped that. What are you all arguing about?

Btw, I also got a Celeron laptop you were talking about, I got it for free.


ok, as you say, I'm not gonna argue about it

You are either hopelessly naive or you're being dishonest if you think he's even slightly less sociopathic than any other of 'em.

You are clueless if you think all CEOs are the same.

Then explain how Windows 7 64 bit uses much less memory than Windows 11.

the time that's never came lol


First thing I did after installing upgrading to Windows 8 was installing Startisback and I forgot I was even running it. I'm not exaggerating, one time a friend sitting by asked if I was it was Windows 8 and I had to think for a moment.

Windows 8.1 combined with StartIsBack was a much better OS than Windows 10 I was actually surprised when everyone praised that ad pushing piece of crap with mandatory spyware, forced updates and inconsistent UI all over the place.


Distribution network and marketing.


> CVE-2025-43529 allows threat actors a direct code execution capability, while CVE-2025-14174 provides the much needed sandbox escape and privilege escalation capabilities which makes it devastating

Good news for people wanting to run the code they want on their own devices?


Yep! It's good for jailbreaking, but it's a double edged sword because it's a similar approach that offensive actors use.

Most users lack the domain experience needed to protect and maintain hygiene against threat actors.


you and your friends can both run code on your device!

this assumes your friends are actually a North Korean APT


Most devices doesn't have unlockable bootloaders now thus you can't even root them unless it was a popular device and a temporary /finicky hack was found.


So much this. Thankfully it hasn't lost tabs for me for a very long time, but I find it ridiculous that Firefox's session persistence is basically "yeah let's deserialize it into a single line of JSON and write it to disk every 15 seconds".

On top of that, what was their solution when it became apparent it was slowly killing your SSD by blowing up write amplification through the roof [1]? Zipping the JSON. Yeah. Seriously.

I mean sure, this storage format might've been a nice first implementation as a PoC, but you'd think they'd redo this at some point and store the session in an Sqlite DB file or something, I mean it's not like they haven't been using it already for history and bookmarks.

1. https://www.servethehome.com/firefox-is-eating-your-ssd-here...


Harshly persecuted how, exactly? They got a slap on the wrist, still continued to ship IE as the default browser and stayed dominant browser vendor until another monopoly started to abuse its position.


The verdict significantly hamstrung their internal developer processes. Yes, IE didn't go anywhere, but the path of tight integration of web and OS was effectively abandoned for several years, and they generally toned down integration features between their products.


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