I rarely visit Hacker News for this reason... I've come to realize there are a lot of angry "holier than thou" neckbeards that congregate here these days.
- Animal protein is superior to plant-based protein if you consider the natural amino acid profile. Plant-based protein simply lacks several amino acids and many sources aren't "complete" proteins.
- Vitamin B12 is essential for the body and found almost exclusively animal proteins. A Vitamin B12 deficiency can be serious over time and lead to some nasty side effects. Of course, you can always supplement Vitamin B12 and eat fortified foods. My personal preference is to get as much vitamins and minerals from my diet.
- Satiety. Animal proteins simply tend to be more satiating (at least for me).
- Calorie content. It's really difficult to eat the calories needed on a vegan diet. A massive calorie deficit (especially long-term) can wreak havoc on your hormone profile and bring about a number of other health issues.
- Animal overpopulation. If we don't hunt certain species of animals periodically, they'll overpopulate. Hunting keeps nature at a healthy balance of which the available habitat can support. The hunting license fees also support wildlife conservation so that we can protect wild animals and their natural habitats. frnkng mentioned wild boars... they serve as a great example of the threat to pose to farms, because they damage acres and acres of crops.
With that said, my diet varies throughout the week. I'll have moderate amounts of meat for a few days and then I'll switch to plant-based proteins for a few days. I find that it's better on my digestive system.
>Animal protein is superior to plant-based protein if you consider the natural amino acid profile. Plant-based protein simply lacks several amino acids and many sources aren't "complete" proteins. - Vitamin B12 is essential for the body and found almost exclusively animal proteins.
This really is the wrong way to argue.
So what was the situation before we developed tests to detect amino acids and Vitamin B12? Did vegans get to correctly argue that nutritionally plants were equivalent to animal foods? No.
Well they still incorrectly argue based on what you said that all that one needs to do be successful vegan is to eat a variety, take some b12 and some protein power and the nutritional aspect is taken care off, They can also they can argue that plants contain useful compounds not found in animal foods, how do you you argue?
My point being that must ultimately look at the health outcome of each food group experimentally.
I'm not here to argue. Simply offering my perspective per the OP's request. That does not take away from the fact that almost all plant-based protein sources lack "complete" proteins with all of the essential amino acids that the body needs for cellular repair/regeneration. There are plenty of long-term studies that underscore this.
I am not challenging the merits of vegetables, as I realize they are absolutely essential for optimal health. One needs at least a moderate source of protein and fats with a plentiful source of vegetables to support a healthy metabolism.
No I didn't saying you were arguing (in the negative sense of the word). I meant argue as in, argue a case, which has a neutral connotation.
>One needs at least a moderate source of protein and fats with a plentiful source of vegetables to support a healthy metabolism.
How do you know?
Because research/science said so?
Empirically, infact many people have lots of digestive problems with vegetables.
Some health problems AFAIK believe can be reliably traced to excess consumption of some vegetables.
I am no lawyer, but I am pretty sure an NDA is unenforceable unless damages can be confirmed or confidential information is provably exposed.
Then again, this is the case in Texas. I had to deal with this from a previous employer, met with labor law attorneys, they sent a nasty gram back to said previous employer, and said employer backed out.
I just got word that the Adobe Summit 2020 conference I was set to attend has been canceled. I believe the event had ~17,000 attendees last year, which is but a fraction of the SXSW attendance. Most of the attendees are based in the US too...
I think it's that employees who get flown to $1000-a-ticket conferences by their employers get treated better by their employers than food service workers.
I wholly understand that, I'm speaking directly to the employees who live and work in Austin and very likely wont have their shifts cancelled like those $1000-ticket holders would (speaking from experience).
Sorry, somehow I keep forgetting that trying to bring up the fact that there are classes of people not making software engineer money that would be just as affected by some of the hypotheticals on HN is a no-no.
They don’t really enter into the calculus for running or not running these events but there are a huge number of local people who provide food/drink, security, audio, janitorial, registration, etc. for these events who lose a week of work when events are canceled—probably with no compensation.
They don’t really enter into the calculus for running or not running these events
I would beg to differ as many "official" SXSW events rely on local venues to host them, Austin Texas is not a large city, geographically. It's just very dense. There is not a surplus of concert and event space outside of Auditorium Shores and the Long Center for keynotes and expos.
Otherwise, the festival HEAVILY relies on local establishments and venues in order to even exist; especially for SXSW Music. Again, speaking from direct experience having worked as a crew lead at sxsw for 12 years, local venues are critical to the success of this festival. And that's where many of these people work. Their availability and their health absolutely factors in, or at least it should.
The workforce behind this festival extends from stage and production crews to bartenders and hosts to unpaid volunteers who live in Austin and simply want to be a part of the festivities (since volunteering qualifies you for free access to certain events, depending on your role) and whose sole job is interacting with festival goers providing direction or interacting directly with people, handling brochures, exchanging money at registers or checking badges.
Downplaying the impact to the local community and the local workers who make the festival happen behind the scenes isn't fair.
I think you’re violently agreeing with me. I meant that, even SXSW aside, the decisions being made to cancel or not cancel tech events is almost certainly not taking the local impact into account.
I mean, small industry events can be a blast and pay really well. In 2014 I put together a crew who ran production for the Austin Technology Council CEO Awards show, it was a small affair for about 30 startups and the ATC, no more than about 200 people.
If you can get a reliable crew and know what you're doing, it can be kind of fun and rewarding with a great deal of technical autonomy.
As I get older part of me wonders if it makes sense to just focus on small corporate events to supplement the daily DevOps job.
lol yeah I have a hard time imagining food service's actual cost (not what the hotel bills, but what they actually pay the workers and managers of that part) as being more than a rounding error, and still "sorry workers, can't do anything for you".
Safer, maybe, but nothing beats truly owning real estate.
I have a few rental properties, all managed by a property management co.
I can cash out re-fi and roll it into another property tax free, rinse and repeat. Buy > Rehab > Rent > Refinance > Repeat.
I can take the property and sell if it appreciates.
I can do a 1031 tax exchange for a similar property.
Or I can just continue to rent it out.
Best part is I can use other people's money as leverage to buy much more property, and if the deal makes sense at the time of purchase/deal analysis, I won't be over-leveraged and will stand to make money, with multiple exits as options.
After paying off the note, I can seller finance it to someone (rent-to-own) if I wish, at whatever interest rate I/my buyer deems appropriate.
Can't do that with REITs, unfortunately. But in terms of being truly passive, REITs fit the bill!
