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Something so grim should be accompanied by its citation, just so we can check it's not a windup

I didn't wanna cite the Fortune article I got it from because it cited research from a group called "Whop" that didn't have the full data available. But here's the article I read

https://fortune.com/article/gen-alpha-dream-careers-youtuber...

EDIT: now that I'm looking more into it, I think this YouGov poll was the original source https://today.yougov.com/technology/articles/39997-influence...

I do vaguely recall a more serious study showing a vast majority of kids thinking "influencer" was a viable career path and a very large portion beleiving it was the only viable career path for them. It also found that these percentages were higher in boys than in girls. That's the study I was trying to find but failed and found this instead


two decades ago it would have been:

  1. Movie Star / Actor
  2. TV Star / entertainer
Youtube / tiktok are just the equivalent for that age in this day & age.

One interesting difference is influencer is plausible for a significantly larger population of youth than their legacy equivalents ever were

This is probably true and I would be really interested to see a longer-running study with a consistent methodology taking this on

Consider a prompt like this to a Deep Research agent if you are interested:

How have youth career aspirations toward entertainment/fame-oriented careers changed over time (1960s-present), and does the rise of "influencer" represent a genuine shift or category substitution?

\"Specific sub-questions\":

1. What longitudinal or repeated cross-sectional surveys have asked children/teens about career aspirations with consistent methodology?

2. What were the historical rates for "actor/entertainer/movie star" type responses in surveys from 1970-2000?

3. How do current "influencer/YouTuber" rates compare when aggregated with traditional entertainment categories?

4. Are there international comparison studies showing different rates by country?

5. Is there evidence for changing perceived accessibility of fame careers (kids thinking it's actually achievable vs. fantasy)?

\"Priority sources\": Academic journals (Journal of Career Development, Journal of Vocational Behavior), Gallup historical archives, Pew Research, YouGov archives, OECD education reports, Harris polls historical data.

\"Methodological notes\": Flag when studies use different age ranges, different question framings (open-ended vs. multiple choice), and whether "entertainment" categories were offered or emerged organically.

I ran this for you and got some really interesting results[0] (TLDR: Young people have traded the stability of the "Company Man" for the autonomy of the "Personal Brand" in response to a labor market that no longer guarantees security.

[0]: https://gemini.google.com/share/3652b7910d8b


Youtuber is not a grim thing at all. Basically they are saying they aspire to share their hobbies and interests with others in a monetized way.

This perhaps isn't the lind of lethality the DoD has in mind.


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EU Data Act will be more relevant here, but will take a while to roll out.


Given https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/ukusa-agreement-o... , what does sovereignty even mean here?

I also wish we were attracting industries that weren't going to significantly push up electricity consumption on windless days, which will have an outsized effect on electricity prices everyone else pays. At least this says the datacentres will be up north, hopefully not exacerbating transmission issues.


This is about the Category 1 duties arriving by 2027, not this year's tranche of rules (such as age gating).


A lot of what you are posting is not true. Take for instance your claim that "Ofcom is an industry self-regulation body"


Ofcom is a government-approved industry regulator, strictly speaking.

It is what in the UK gets called a Quango. A quasi-non-government-organisation.

It is not a government body. It is not under direct ministerial control.

It gets some funds from government (but mostly through fees levied on industry):

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5a7c8eec40f0b...

But it operates within industry as the industry's regulator, and its approach has always been to operate that way (just as the other Of- quangos do).

Here is what appears to be their own take on it.

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/siteassets/resources/documents/cons...

This seems pretty consistent with what I said -- it is essentially a self-regulation body, promoting self-regulation but backed by statutory powers/penalties.

Now what else is untrue?

ETA: rate-limited so I am not able to properly respond to the below. Bye for now.


Quasi-autonomous, to be completely accurate. They consult regularly with the industry and ministers but the Office of Communications Act established Ofcom to be independent of both Government and industry. They're accountable to Parliament.


Perhaps that's the reason this is getting misunderstood. The distinction between the government and parliament is technical within the UK political system. To everyone outside that system, the whole system is "the government".

It's the political version of someone pointing to a computer tower and saying "this CPU can hold all of your music" and then you (a computer technician) interject "actually the hard drive can hold all of your music".


Your claim that Ofcom is in any way a "self-regulation body" is untrue. And frankly also a straight-up insane thing to say, sorry.

Ofcom was created by the UK government for the sole purpose of enforcing laws passed by the UK government [and sometimes interpreting those laws]. It acts on behalf of the State at all times, and is not empowered to do otherwise under any circumstances EVER.

You appear to be confused about what being a "quango" actually means in this case. "Quasi-NGO" means that while it appears to be a non-governmental organisation, it is not one. Ofcom's at arm's length because the majority of its daily legal obligations are closer to judicial than administrative, and it is UK custom (rightly) to not put judicial functions inside government departments.


While you're correct about Ofcom, the real distinction isn't really to the objective, but to the classification of its employees.

Ofcom, Gambling Commission, and the rest of the quangos are independent statutory bodies, and (this is a big distinction!) their employees are not civil servants.

Quangos include judicial tribunals and places like the BBC, or the Committee on Climate Change- it is a broad umbrella.


Law enforcement / national security. E.g. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/intelligence-serv...

Although I can anticipate what you'll say...


Douglas Hofstadter would like a word. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Hofstadter


"an emergent consequence of seething lower-level activity in the brain"

Interesting!


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