at some point folks at twitter will realize that only masochists who enjoy having their reputation ruined by their boss in public are welcome at the company
According to some people here you're just supposed to take it when your boss shits on your work and firing you for any push back at all is entirely justified.
According to Twitter employees on platforms like Blind and news sources, Twitter (the website) is the only datapoint for communication with their new boss.
1 - according to a lot of reports from other people fired these past few days, there is no internal conversation about anything substantial, they learn more about his point of view and/or what he doesn't like in their job from his twitter posts
2 - no matter what, as a manager you are the "face" of the team and while internally you are in charge of letting people know what's wrong in their code etc ... It is extremly bad form to push the problem down to the members of your team when talking in a public facing situation. You're the manager, it's your team, you're the face, and you're also the face of the problems. No matter how deep down or high up in the chain you are, if you manage a team and behave like what Elon did in the original tweet this guy answers to, I guarantee you no one on your team respects you.
3 - the guy is in a firing spree to try and justify his overpriced unwanted purchase, and then goes on to take a dump on the work of this engineer in public with a factually wrong comment. No matter if you're my employer, you have no right to damage my reputation based on false allegations in public just to help your ego.
No, you don’t have to “take it”. You could always just resign…and then comment on Twitter and frankly everywhere else about how wrong and how much of an asshole that Elon was yada yada yada…but I wam not exactly sure in which parallel universe people live in to think that publicly calling out your boss (who is known to be a little quick on the trigger already) should have zero consequences to you.
Pretty much seems to be a universally bad idea no matter who your boss is, but if your boss is Elon Musk…there is literally no other outcome to that action. He damn sure isn’t going to thank you for setting him straight and promote you.
This dude had to know and expect these consequences and this was an intentional publicity grab/hero syndrome deal. If not, he is just a moron (which kind of underscores Elon’s POV to be honest).
dude that's just "taking it" - either you lick the boots of your boss or you resign
but then if you don't try to push for anything at work (aka doing anything more than what's expected of your role) that's quiet quitting
you just can't win
also elon musk owned twitter for like 3 weeks how the hell was that guy supposed to know that as a mere mortal you're supposed to just let elon musk shit on your work and ruin your reputation in public then fire you anyway after you stay silent
if every choice makes you bad then it's at least nice to get fired publicly so you can line up a new job in replies to the tweet that got you fired
It may be hard to swallow but it’s not “your work”, it’s his work. He paid a shit ton of money to call it his and if he wants to shit on what he owns, so be it, it’s his. He paid for the privilege.
Those employees don’t get to take their contribution out of the source when they leave—so while they might feel a sense of ownership, their contributions belong to Elon the minute they transfer them from their brain to the company property they are using.
I am pretty confident that publicly criticizing your boss and getting fired might appeal to a lot of folks on HN, but it’s not going to be looked at very favorably by most hiring managers out there.
"your work" as in work that you did, not work that you own. a picasso painting is still a picasso painting even in a private collection. if your next line is "coding is just work and not art" then please tone down the capitalism.
if the "boss is always right or quit" thing is right then wouldn't hiring managers also have a problem if your boss publicly insults your work? you're doomed either way, self-defense or not! but so far what you're saying does not seem to hold true - replies to fired engineers are full of kindness and job offers.
> "your work" as in work that you did, not work that you own. a picasso painting is still a picasso painting even in a private collection. if your next line is "coding is just work and not art" then please tone down the capitalism
First, I made no such claim about coding, work, art, capitalism, or otherwise so lets not try and put words into my mouth that was never said, or even implied.
Second, if you are an artist and someone has paid and is continuing to pay you to generate more art…if you cannot handle their criticism (valid or not) of that art, you have the choice to leave and go elsewhere to create art on your own, or find another benefactor that appreciates you.
My criticism is not of these two engineers, they did what they did and I frankly don’t care. Their actions resulted in an obvious and expected consequence that would have happened anywhere and for any other boss. My criticism is for the people here on HN who feel that they should not have been fired. That is frankly ridiculous.
