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It's so beyond my mind that people are finding reasons and excuses for the authority to justify the arrest. Let it be crystal clear that this is purely politics motivated. There's probably 20 other ways to address the concern of the platform. Let me ask you this, will France do the same if it's a US company or the founder is a US citizen?


Have you used Telegram before making this comment? It is moderated. You really think this is about the company, the platform, not about politics? Well you should think again.


it is much less aggressively moderated and censored than facebook, and pleasant to use, source: first hand experience.

But i have no idea if it truly has more or less crime than other platforms. So we can't really tell if he's being messed with because he can't stand up for himself in a way Microsoft or Musk can, or it is truly a criminal problem.


Should have written >unmoderated<. No service would live 2 hours if it would be actually unmoderated. But seemingly they only remove content that is directly a product of/causing physical harm.


Because these countries are hypocrites. Because politics, because these guys are from Russia, China. You can so obviously see there's discrimination against companies from those countries. Can you imagine France do this if it's a US company?


> Because these countries are hypocrites.

Rhetorical question: for what reason should a country be anything other than a hypocrite when it comes to situations such as this? Nations prioritize their own self-interests and that of their allies, even if that makes them appear hypocritical from an outside, or indeed, even an inside perspective. But that doesn't mean there's no legitimacy to what they do.


That's why startups need to get Silicon Valley VC investment so that the VCs can lobby Washington on their behalf with <del>protection money</del> political donations and avoid this crap.


totally agree, you have to so naive to believe it's not US gov's influence that's maneuvering this behind the scene, just like in Japan, South Korea and other China's neighboring countries.


This is very valuable sharing, thanks


I’m not sure where this arrogant attitude comes from. But please keep that condescending tone out of this community.


My comments are far from arrogant; they are directly decrying the arrogance of another user, and labeling this kind of pushback as arrogant or condescending is disingenuous, bordering on ironic. Let's stay on topic.


bad attitude is bad attitude, period.


I'm sorry, I think you're confused. I'm not displaying a bad attitude. My comments are defending the notion that ML research is scientific research, and attempting to explain to OP why they should not criticize others for engaging in such research, nor gate-keep what is and isn't valid research.

You have added nothing substantial to this conversation. If you don't have anything substantial to say, then you should stop attempting to simply instigate. Please review the HN guidelines. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

> Be kind. Don't be snarky. Converse curiously; don't cross-examine. Edit out swipes.

> Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Have a good day, and please reconsider how you interact with others on this website before telling others to do the same.


sama will be forced to step down as OpenAI CEO in 12 months.


Gemini nano is already in Google pixel and runs locally.


Pixels have a lot more RAM than iPhones though, only low-end Androids devices have as little.


It's so ironic that in the future, some Americans may use a VPN to log onto TikTok to practice their right to freedom of expression, while all the local social medias will ban them, lol.


The law doesn't require or permit blocking access to Chinese servers, and virtually no current TikTok users are going to use VPNs to access it.


this is not an economic nor trade issue though


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