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...and you got downvoted. It's absolutely ridiculous that a forum like HN supposedly frequented by the best and brightest has so many immature children.


I've lost almost all of my karma on this thread and not a single comment as to why I'm being downvoted (-7 points or so). The original article is right that HN has become an incredibly negative community. Downvoting is the internet equivalent of saying "fuck you." So many people want to tell me to shut up but no one will actually say one word why?


> but no one will actually say one word why?

Here's a word about why. Your comments were rightly downvoted because they didn't contain any information. They lashed out at something you happen to dislike, using phrases like "immature children" that merely vent personal displeasure and offer nothing of value to the community. If HN threads are a swimming pool, that is peeing in it.

HN has a long history of users repeating the same complaints about downvoting. These get downvoted because they lower the signal/noise-ratio. They are such a cliché that the guidelines have for many years contained a rule asking you specifically not to post that kind of comment.

If, instead of familiarizing yourself with any of this and taking your lumps like the rest of us do, you decide to post such things anyway, the only surprise is that they aren't downvoted more.


From the FAQ:

  Resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.


Shouldn't there be an exception to that rule? "Unless the original discussion is about downvoting, or about an aspect of HackerNews that would lead to a comment about downvoting being on-topic". Of course, there still needs to be something of substance in the comment.


The comment we're talking about isn't quite substantial. Even the meta-discussion that's happening around most of this stuff isn't all that useful. There have been a lot of people who haven't really gotten the hang of commenting here, complaining about the power of a downvote.


I previously had no interest in Backbone but those are absolutely amazing learning resources.


I agree, I see so many comments downvoted to oblivion simply because the comment betrays a lack of rockstar ninja coding ability even without being egregiously wrong. Downvoting should be reserved for trolling, bullshit, and objectively wrong information.


Also - potentially interesting but controversial threads in which the first post is inevitably blotted out into oblivion. This to me is a sure sign that the fade effect of downvoting doesn't work as intended, either to prevent people from making such comments, or to prevent others from engaging them in conversation by making it slightly difficult to read them.


Ironically this comment has been downvoted a few times. Point made.

EDIT: try giving a reason for downvoting. Apparently opposition to downvoting is not a popular opinion.


It's pretty ballsy to release this kind of app for free without IAP, but how the hell do you intend to monetize it?


This is the spirit. Why should there be anything for free?


I'm afraid I can't disclose too much at this point. We are focusing on making a good product, and I believe monetization will work out if the app is endorsed by our users.


The join button is completely broken in Chrome beta.


It's also broken in Chrome v40


I think the top blurb would benefit from specifying what modern problems Wake is good at solving. Certainly, the rest of the docs give a better idea, but most programmers have a short attention span regarding brand new languages and won't get beyond the first paragraph.


Agreed, I feel like every JavaScript framework of the week should have this as well. What advantages does this tool have over everything else that is similar to it?


Is it safe to assume that anyone wishing to learn Rust can, by alpha2, study The Rust Programming Language and Rust By Example and not need to relearn anything within that scope after 1.0 lands?


The core language is almost completely fixed, and the only real changes will be in unstable areas like associated types. There might be some small API changes but all APIs are marked with stability levels so you should be able to figure out what is stable, and what is not.


I had the same thoughts as you while reading the article and I can only imagine you are being downvoted by nationalists who aren't happy at the suggestion that the Harappans weren't writing Sanskrit epics on their pots.


If you have users in China, then you definitely need an alternative to Google. Google has been almost completely blocked since the days leading up to the 25th anniversary of Tiananmen, so sites using Google's CDN are broken in China. Most people assumed the block would be lifted after the anniversary passed, but so far it's still in place.


We have users in China, and unfortunately CloudFlare is banned there too. Also Russia blocks some of CloudFlare's IP addresses, and Iraq AFAICT.


I am in Shanghai and CloudFlare seems to suffer from rolling blocks mostly against SSL content. We notice as we have a ecommerce site behind their service, our customer are in the EU so no bother really just a pain sometime to get their orders out... connections to Google in almost all forms is basically dead now. Weirdly I don't remember HackerNews getting blocked and thats on CF too???


From the official docs: "The Arduino programming language is an implementation of Wiring, a similar physical computing platform, which is based on the Processing multimedia programming environment." and "the Arduino language is merely a set of C/C++ functions that can be called from your code."


Just saw this, but please note that Processing is not being run on the Arduino, but rather it is controlling the Arduino through the serial connection. And you can control an Arduino via a serial connection using just about any programming language, including Python and JavaScript.

So again, you can't run Java or Processing on the Arduino. Keep researching.


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