When you claim he is affected by dunning kreuger you are by definition attacking the person instead of the argument. Hence "ad hominem"
Then when stating the authority of pilots and their unions you are not attacking the argument with a counter argument. Instead you claim you are right because of the authoroty of the union. Hence argument from authority.
Even if the Hersh thesis is completely made up, he still makes more sense than what this guy does.
For one thing. The most plausible reason he can't find the plane dropping the buoy he privides himself.
-It's a small device.
-Better to use a boat.
-Better to use a non military boat.
Yeah? Maybe that is what they did?
It's not impossible the source filled in a few gaps in his story? Or was mistaken? Or Hersh himself might have?
I don't want to go full conspiracy mode myself here but one thing is for sure. And that is that not finding proof of a covert operation can only mean one of two things. Either that it didn't take place or that it indeed was covert.
And why could the source not have said Stoltenberg worked with the Americans since the Vietnam war as a figure of speech?
Hersh article is not enough to base an opinion on imo. But it's not precisely worse off after this guys rather hollow arguments.
It's not what they did, according to Hersh! It's not a minor gap in the story! Hersh claims the Norwegian Navy allocated an Alta-class minesweeper to the task of operating as a diving platform for American divers. You can't say "well, maybe that's not what happened then!" and act like the story is intact. If major details in the story are false, that's a big deal!
You can absolutely still believe the US blew up the pipelines, the same way you could have before Hersh's goofy story ran. But you can't claim to believe Hersh's story while systematically dismantling all of his claims. The story itself is either true or it isn't.
I feel like a lot of people are defending this story because they've independently and axiomatically derived US culpability for the pipeline sabotage. I don't have anything to say about whether the US sabotaged the Nord Stream pipeline. But Seymour M. Hersh has, ever since 2006, been a nutbag, and this story he's telling makes no sense. That's a much more interesting thing to discuss than our rooting interests in geopolitics!
If you think he's right about the particulars, and this analysis is wrong about those particulars, say why! That's an interesting discussion to have!
To play some devils advocate, is it possible for either Hersh or the supposed source changed some of the more superfluous details to obfuscate exactly what they know and who could have leaked it? Not trying to root for anyone or be an America-bad type here. Just having a hard time believing that the specific delivery vehicle used is anything more than a pedantic detail for future historians.
I really needed to know if tptacek was somehow mixing in some ad homimem attacks to discredit the author.
Two things I found interesting that I didn't know and found fascinating is that western countries would give the US in modern age jurisdiction over their territory. I get how it happens in Japan or Germany that were occupied due to their role in WWII.
It's also worth noting that part of the reason why Iran had a revolution was especially due to the fact that there was no jurisdiction over crimes Americans did.
But why would a western nation sign such a thing in 2022?
I think we can also agree that if they had any hint of Russia doing it(which is an absurd theory to begin with given that they ARE the tap), it would have been blowing into extraordinary proportions. They fact that the story quietly died is a quite telling by itself.
Let's also remember for a moment that both NS1 and 2 were actually built on request of the Germans.
Let's also not forget that there had been an incident with an explosive laden drone in 2015 near the pipeline. Previous discussion from HN
You will be fine. It would not bother you if not for your alcoholism.
Try to tell someone about this, support is important. Quitting is a bit of a process, but its actually not that hard, it's just hard as fucking fuck some days. You are not alone.
