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There was a free year and then a yearly usage fee. I think the iPhone version was always a single pay purchase.


I've been a Threema user for over 7 years now and I have my most important contacts there.

Telegram is no E2E-Messenger. I know you can enable it per chat, but that's so solution. And groups are always not encrypted. Also they use some non-standard encryption. Why?

Signal needs my phone number. I dislike that idea.

I use Discord for anything unimportant. I prefer to not use it though. For voice I still prefer TeamSpeak, because of the end to end encryption and self hosting.

I don't know or don't use the others.


I agree about the Spotify desktop app. It got worse and worse. But for me there are different reasons. Especially the performance got worse enormously. Still running the 0.9.7. The old Android apps were way faster, too. I really miss those times. Hardware got better but software got so much worse it's pure insanity.


I've been a Posteo user for over 7 years now and I couldn't be happier. I also use it for calendar and contacts sync. It just works. But I doubt it is a Gmail replacement. It is a great email service provider though.


I think even 18 year old are too young. When I was 18 I would do all the stupid things. I would not trust this person at all. I think something around 25 or so is a good age. Not just this subject but in general.


If a person is old enough to die for their country (i.e. enlist as a soldier), they’re old enough to make their own decisions about their sexuality.


18 year olds are dumb and easily manipulated, which is precisely why they are recruited to join the army.

Someone's ability to join the army and be used as cannon fodder is hardly proof of their ability to think intelligently for themselves.


Firefox has it at least since the last version. Probably it's disabled on your Firefox for some reason?


It's not native, it's a poor, buggy implementation.


What do you mean by not native? What bugs do you see?


What could I possibly mean by not native other than not native?

Bugs from a quick play-around (comparing with Microsoft Edge):

* The zoom with touch pad has a weird latency not present in Edge.

* Zoom on touchscreen is janky and jumps around.

* Zooming in and then out often (but not consistently) stops working half way through the gesture.

* Scrolling behaviour while zoomed is wildly different to native apps like Edge. Scrolling is extremely fast and has some kind of acceleration.

* Pinching while scrolling on the touchscreen lags badly.

It just feels shitty. Firefox devs don't care about a polished experience on Windows touchscreen laptops and it's a dealbreaker for me.


Drop the snark. Drop the dismissive tone. You have had Fx people replying to you directly. Saying they don't care is shitty behavior from you.


The bug report is 8 years old and they have finally implemented a "solution" that does not work properly.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=789906


Cannot confirm any of these points (Win 10 pro, Thinkpad T490p). Everything is buttery smooth, and does exactly what I would expect it to do, both zooming and scrolling. (I only tied the touch screen, though.)

Maybe check your touchpad and touchscreen drivers.


It works perfectly in literally every piece of software I use other than Firefox (which I don't use, for this reason).


We've filed a bug to track these problems: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1682974


It will be tough to keep up with Edge/Safari on their respective home platforms going forward. I've been trying to move over to Edge from Firefox on my Windows desktop just because it's clearly the future. Safari works best on my iPhone12 mini. When I get an M1 MBA, I intend to just use Safari.

I haven't been using Firefox for nearly 20 years because of a rendering engine, I've used it because of its features. In the last 20 years, most people have moved from desktops to laptops and phones, native app battery use and performance means a lot more than features.


Except HP is not retiring and no-ones grandparent.


Does Signal still fore you to use a phone number? This is a huge deal breaker for a privacy concerned messenger. That's why I prefer using Threema.


Threema is not open source yet so I wouldn't use it for that reason. I did like their security whitepaper, though, and they do have some impressive clients (Mercedes-Benz, etc.).


Additionally they have regular audits [1]. Open source only without any actual thorough reviews doesn't cut it in my opinion.

[1]: https://threema.ch/en/blog/posts/audit-2020-en


Open source is a precondition. They can promise you the world, but if you can't build it yourself and get reproducible builds, who knows what's in there.


Yeah, agree. We've had enough fun recently with the likes of the CIA backed Crypto-AG.


Sure, but a precondition itself doesn't guarantee anything. You still need to pony up the money for actual aufits.


Yep, they're still working on that.


It seems that Threema charges for the app instead of requiring a phone number. Do they offer anonymous payment options like cryptocurrency or cash by mail?

I'm not sure how data protection works with Google Play and App Store payments, but I feel like this could be a potential privacy problem.


You can buy Threema from within their own shop: https://shop.threema.ch/. They support Bitcoin.


I thought color blind people would configure the color blind mode in their OS? Is it not common or is it just bad?


I'd be interested, too, but I think Germans will always try to adapt to English speaking folks, so I guess no?


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