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For those not aware, ICQ is owned by Mail.Ru Group controlled by Alisher Usmanov, one of Putin's oligarch friends


No mention of any sort of chat encryption either. As with all the Mail.Ru Group's other services (VK, Odnoklassniki) it is widely understood that the russian secret services have essentially unrestricted access to everything happening on them, so be advised


People don't seem to understand what level of access FSB has there. Like literal spying boxes with APIs pulling linked phone numbers and identities to associate with messages all directly controlled by FSB.


Yeah, that seems like an immediate non-starter.


Do you also avoid chinese companies like Riot Games, Epic Games, Tik Tok and others? What about chinese backed movies?


That person might ...

But I could see not avoiding games, but very much wanting to avoid communications software.



Even rms agrees that games do not need to be open source. It's when the program has control over your actual life when freedoms, privacy and security start to matter.


For communication, yes...




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